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| Nov-18-06 |
| argishti: AMAZING GAME BY "The Iron Idiot"==>Bronstein. he truly is the master in beating computers. I think kramnik should take some lessons from him while he is alive! |
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Dec-06-06
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| CoryLetain: This is in 1963. Were computers already beating masters at this time? |
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| Dec-06-06 |
| Fluffy: This game is nothing short of astounding. The way Bronstein appears to give the computer a free hand yet keeps catching it out of position and effortlessly outmaneuvering it every step of the way reminds me of Terence Hill slapping and outdrawing that bad guy in Trinity Is Still My Name! Too funny! Great job here, David. Fluffy |
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Dec-06-06
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| alexmagnus: <This is in 1963. Were computers already beating masters at this time?> No, a first computer win over a master-rated player was in 1975. |
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Dec-06-06
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| whatthefat: <dippel: Here is what Fritz 9 says: 12... Ke6 ?? a weak move, ruining a winning position. lack should quickly conclude development. (12...Ke8 this is the best bet to save the position> Isn't it just a forced draw after 12...Ke8 13.Nf6+ |
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| Dec-27-06 |
| Themofro: Simply amazing. Gotta love Bronstein's handling of the game. |
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| Feb-13-07 |
| argishti: one of the games, that is simply a work of art, so imaginative, u r doomed looking at this game... this is not just a game, its a masterpiece... |
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Feb-13-07
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| ianD: Bronstein streets ahead!!
The computer got of to a reasonable start but then was simply outplayed by the Master!! |
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| Feb-13-07 |
| argishti: i cant stop kibitzing about this game.
How did he play these moves, its like a shock to the computer...so imaginative, where did he get these beautiful moves from?? |
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| Feb-14-07 |
| olaf4lena: Such disdain for his opponent, you would think he was playing me! The earliest chess program I played was Sargon II for the Commodore 64 circa 1980. Not a bad engine for it's time. |
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| Jun-01-07 |
| IMDONE4: Whats with the use of the King's Gambit against computers back in those days? Even Fischer, who hated the KG, used it against Greenblatt. Needless to say, the Kings Gambit wouldnt exactly be the ideal opening to use against computers anymore. |
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| Mar-07-08 |
| D.Observer: Machine lost in 23 moves?! A nice Monday puzzle might be 14. ? |
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| Mar-07-08 |
| Voltaic: pretty game ok, but the same machine won the previous game. She called Bronstein next day early in morning, congratulated him and reminded him that the score was 1-1 :) it's all in Bronstein's book! |
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| Jul-06-08 |
| lizardstyle101: bronstein played really good, but i bet chessmaster 10th edition would put him to sleep! |
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| Dec-18-08 |
| thebribri8: Can someone who possesses more technological knowledge than I explain to me how a 1963 computer could input and output moves? |
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| Jan-24-09 |
| WhiteRook48: wow, well, 1963 computers weren't even good anyway, no match for Deep Rybka 3 or even Deep Fritz of 2001. |
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| Jan-24-09 |
| MarbleSkull: They had electricity in 1963?
Seriously though, this game isn't that good. If a master blew away a two year old would you huddle around the game, shrieking excitedly about the master's skillful play? I'm surprised they had a computer that could manage 23 moves... |
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| Jan-24-09 |
| WhiteRook48: and that he was invented so long ago... |
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| Jan-31-09 |
| Katu: <Thebribri8>: speaking of the match, I don't know exactly, but I know that even in the 70's Soviet computers used typewriter-like printers for input and output. |
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| Apr-17-09 |
| bunbun: I think the 1st game where Bronstein lost to the computer he had given queen odds. |
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| May-17-09 |
| Brown: Bronstein throughout his career with computers intentionally sacrificed material to throw off their evaluations. This is an early, and extreme case. The practice didn't prove as fruitful in his later tries, but he still sacrificed successfully, but not so blatantly and (it must be said) irresponsibly as in this game. |
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| Aug-21-09 |
| Julian713: Can someone who possesses more technological knowledge than I explain to me how a 1963 computer could input and output moves? They would have used punch cards for I/O. There could have been a typewriter output, but certainly not a keyboard input at that early date. The monitor hadn't even been invented yet! |
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Aug-21-09
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| hms123: <Julian713> In the early 1970s, teletype machines were used for I/O. They would have been available in 1963 as well. There were no monitors. In 1970, it took 15-20 hours for the computer to make a single move--and not a very good one at that. |
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| Aug-21-09 |
| slomarko: wow fantastic i can't believe Bronstein managed to toast a computer in 1963. Nowadays everybody knows how to play anti-computer chess against Fritz and Rybka but in those days it was incredibly heard. i don't know much about the M20 computer but everybody knows that every next version is stronger compared with the previous, for example Fritz 9 is stronger than Fritz 8, Fritz 10 is stronger than Fritz 9 and so on. Just imagine how strong M20 must have been, they had 20 version to perfect it. |
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| Aug-21-09 |
| MaxxLange: I feel sorry for the poor thing, taking the Rook like that |
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