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David Bronstein vs Fritz (Computer)
"When The Chips Are Down" (game of the day Dec-21-2018)
Aegon (1991), The Hague NED, rd 3
Semi-Slav Defense: Noteboom Variation (D31)  ·  1-0


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  lostemperor: Here as an inside information about the program Fritz, is a piece of my kibitz from a Kasparov vs X3D Fritz game. Kasparov has lost his former game to this computer.

<'On the other hand, I am a little proud. I had a small part in the making of Fritz! It was in 1986. Fritz (still called Quest) was playing in my former club in The Hague. Frans Morsch, the creator, operated the computer himself. Perhaps he (Frans) was seen on ESPN. It was just a small chessbord not a terminal and Fritz and I (still 1550) were playing in the B group.

Quest (Fritz) won all it's games except for one. I, yours truly, made a draw. I was lucky Frans offered me a draw. At the end Morsch, only 1850 player showed me where I could have won the game. I saw he was not satisfied with his creation's performance. He must have gotten that weakness out of Fritz the same night. Congretulations Frans, you have done a great job since then! If I can find that game I'll post it.'>

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  lostemperor: For those who thinks fritz (and other programs) were not that strong in 1991, I have to say thats not correct. Fritz in 1991 year score a 2801 performance, perhaps the first program to reach 2800, in a GM blitz tournament and shared first place with Kasparov, all the top players present. Kasparov won the tie break 3-1 I guess.
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  acirce: But computers have always been stronger in blitz, compared to humans, than at longer time controls right?
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  lostemperor: Right acirce. Today human has very little chance against computers at blitz, other than a few half points now and then. At ordinary games topplayers, like Kasparov, and machines are dead equal. That's why I think computers must participate at human WC tournaments since in the eye of the public we have already lost. There must be a new generation of weaker players who can master to beat the computer and restore human dignity and than lose to Kasparov.
Sep-01-04  ughaibu: Nemeth at various time controls:
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  lostemperor: Thanks ughaibu. I haven't read that article yet.
Jun-28-05  SnoopDogg: <Right acirce. Today human has very little chance against computers at blitz, other than a few half points now and then.>

Regular GM's still win Fritz on occasionally. Although they usually lose quite alot before the win one.

Jun-28-05  Kangaroo: To me, it looks like in 1991 Bronstein was much stronger than Fritz: no human partner would make such a silly move as <6... Ba6> (?) - a theoretical move <6... Bb4> is more "normal".

The intuitive attack by Bronstein could be hardly refuted.

Dec-09-17  Everett: Funny to read the kibitzes in the era of AlphaZero
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  al wazir: 15...g6 wasn't very helpful for black. I think 15...Re8 would have been better.
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  Richard Taylor: Poor old Fritz! No match for Bronsteinski.
Dec-21-18  goldenbear: I am not afraid of computers. If you get me a six-pack of Surge and a relaxing pair of MC Hammer pants, I'll show you how to beat Chessmaster 8 days a week.
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  catlover: 15...Re8 is in fact better than Fritz' move. At first I thought that 15...Re8, 16. Nxe7 Rxe7 17. Qd7 won. It looks like black will lose the rook and the game. But Stockfish came up with 17...Nb4!

So if 18. Qc8+ Re8, 19. Bxb4+ Qxb4 20. Qxe8+ Kxe8, 21. cxb4 and it is equal.

Computers have come a long way since 1991.

Dec-21-18  The17thPawn: <Catlover>- thanks for the post I was wondering why 15...,Re8 wasn't played.
Dec-21-18  Starkraven: wher is "acirce" ... i mean, i've heard of long games, but 14yrs 'tween moves seems a tad much - no? .
Dec-21-18  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4 d 24 dpa done

<1. = (0.14): 6...b4> 7.Ne2 Ba6 8.Ng3 Nf6 9.Bg5 Qa5 10.Be2 Be7 11.0-0 Nbd7 12.e5 Nd5 13.Bxe7 Nxe7 14.Rc1 0-0 15.Ne4 Nb6 16.Nc5 Rad8 17.b3 Nbd5 18.Nxa6 Qxa6 19.Bxc4 Qb7 20.Bxd5 Nxd5 21.Qd3

2. + / = (0.31): 6...Qa5 7.Ne5 Nf6 8.Be3 b4 9.Nxc4 Qd8 10.e5 bxc3 11.exf6 cxb2 12.Rb1 gxf6 13.Be2 Qd5 14.0-0 Ba6 15.Qc2 f5 16.Rxb2 Nd7 17.Rfb1 Rg8 18.g3 Rd8 19.Re1 c5 20.dxc5 Nxc5 21.Rd1 Qa8 22.Ne5 Rxd1+ 23.Qxd1 Bxe2 24.Qxe2

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