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Charles Maurian vs Paul Morphy
New Orleans (1854) (unorthodox), New Orleans, LA USA
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Nov-15-03  PizzatheHut: I don't understand how you can lose in 15 moves with the white pieces and with pawn, rook, and move odds. I realize that Maurian is playing Paul Morphy, but still, it seems pretty poor.
Nov-15-03  Bears092: He shouldn't have lost. The final position is just about even.
Nov-15-03  PinkPanther: <He shouldn't have lost. The final position is just about even.>

Even??? I hope that was a joke. White's queen is trapped. And yes, this is a pretty poor effort from Black, considering all the advantages he had.

Nov-15-03  PizzatheHut: <And yes, this is a pretty poor effort from Black, considering all the advantages he had.> Do you mean from White?
Nov-15-03  Bears092: Don't forget that white started up a rook. After the white queen takes the bishop, and black takes the queen back, white has a rook and a knight for a queen, which is close to even.

CM9000 gives white a +.26 score, which is so close to 0 that it's considered equal. If crafty wants to confirm that, it would be nice.

Nov-15-03  Shadout Mapes: If white started with a pawn, a rook, and a move up, but still ended up in an equal position after 15 moves, I'd say it was pretty hopeless. I'm not the type of person to say "since he's playign the best player on earth he should resign" but i reall don't see Maurian winning. I guess he could play on.

Fritz 8 gives -0.44.

Nov-15-03  PinkPanther: <Do you mean from White?>

Yes, yes, yes, I'm sorry. I meant a pretty poor effort from White.

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  Marius: hi Shadout Mapes,
what's the Traxler attack?
Jul-20-04  Shadout Mapes: Reinisch vs Traxler, 1890

Look at the kibitzing there too.

Jan-06-06  nasmichael: Playing Morphy is not an exercise in playing the pieces, I think; people knew who they were playing, and if they didn't before they sat down, they certainly did after. Many of Morphy's opponents coveted certain things--Morphy himself aimed to get the maximum play out of each of his pieces, attacking forward and backward, able to spin the board in his mind. Flexible mindedness won games for him. Analysis after a certain degree wouldn't factor, because the players who were there, live, lost focus in the face of being horrifyingly outclassed, playwise.
Nov-10-08  thebribri8: This is ridiculous! Morphy wasn't a chess player; he was a magician!
Nov-10-08  sleepyirv: Well, Maurian deserved the odds he got.
Dec-31-08  WhiteRook48: seems Maurian didn't play well in this game. And it seems very odd to develop king to f3 in the opening, blocking any queen escape.
Jan-02-09  WhiteRook48: which is why Staunton refused to play Morphy
Jan-03-09  WhiteRook48: this shows up as a 16 move game in the PGN
Feb-08-09  tentsewang: Just because you lose a queen doesn't mean the game's over. Maurian seems like a guy who don't want to get beaten but to resign.
Mar-21-09  WhiteRook48: 16 Qxf4 gxf4 17 Kxf4 and Maurian still has a playable game :D
Nov-03-09  GaeBulg: Rybka gives -.82 at depth 19 so Maurian went from +6 (abouts) to -.82 in 15 moves. I think he was pretty demotivated after that and resigned.
Mar-27-14  yureesystem: sleepyirv: Well, Maurian deserved the odds he got.

Nov-10-08 thebribri8: This is ridiculous! Morphy wasn't a chess player; he was a magician!

No, Maurian is just a bad player, to be given these odds and still lose; give this odds against any GM and I would win.

Jan-12-15  gmelfranco: lo maximo paul morphy siempre muy tactico y siempre calcula con mucha precisi“n.. decreto que el es mi patron mental!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan-29-16  juanhernandez: make a friendship which never ends
Aug-06-19  jinkinson: GOTD with title: "What are the odds?"
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