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Paul Morphy vs Alonzo Morphy
New Orleans ? 1850  ·  Chess variants (000)  ·  1-0


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Jun-24-06   joe barnett: ignore me,, sorry about that, i didn't realise that was supposed to happen...
Jun-24-06   RookFile: That's ok Joe. Somebody got excited the other day when seeing a game Morphy lost, not realizing it was one of these odds games. It happens.
Aug-23-06
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  Timothy Glenn Forney: I hate to spoil it but 17...Kb1 and there's no mate by 0-0.
Jan-20-07   McCool: 17...Kb1 18 Be3 Wins but takes longer (Kxa2).
Jan-30-07   jed44: why not castle anyway? seems quick
Feb-27-07   Themofro: Ah, the fried liver attack, long a favorite of 19th century masters when giving odds. Which makes a lot of sense as you get the king stuck in the center and can attack like crazy. Another opening that Morphy used when giving odds, in this case the queen knight was the Bird's which also makes sense, since the queen knight is really the only peice that doesn't come with a natural square in all variations, mainly in the q-side fianchetto lines though, otherwise, like in the classical you can boldy play Nc3, or calmy play Nd2 in both cases aiming for e4 with a good ol' fashioned positional plus due to the strong pawn duo at f4+e4.
Oct-03-07   realbrob: If you're up a rook against a much stronger opponent, why on earth should you play 3..Nc3, which allows a lot of tactical complications and is probably going to create a position in which your extra rook doesn't matter at all? 3..Bc5 was safer. Personally I would have played something like a Pirc defense. The only thing you have to do is survive until you complete your development, and you're completely winning.
Nov-23-07   Z.Ramsay: BLOWWOW!
Mar-26-08   handle: I love this because Morphy drove the enemy King to his end of the board in the late middle game. I don't do much good with analysis, but was 7... Ke6 a mistake?
Mar-27-08
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  keypusher: <handle> No, 7....Ke6 is the only way to save the knight on d5. But 8....Nd4 was certainly a blunder, allowing White to grab the knight after all. I remember reading in a Reinfeld(?) book a zillion years ago that 14....Kd4 was better than 14....Qd4. No doubt Alonzo made other mistakes too.
Mar-27-08
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  keypusher: <17...Kb1 18 Be3 Wins but takes longer (Kxa2).>

As pointed out earlier 18. Be3 actually loses to 18....Bb4+. 18. 0-0 or 18. Qd1 are winning, apparently. Some rotten computer apparently discovered that 15. Ke2 earlier forces mate in 20, though I haven't checked that out.

Jun-17-08   Amarande: 17 ... Kb1 18 O-O Kxa2 19 Qc2!

and there is no adequate defense to b3+ and discovered mate with the B.

Dec-31-08   WhiteRook48: Morphy usually plays the knight sac on f7.
Jan-01-09   WhiteRook48: Let's celebrate our champion!!
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Jan-18-09   WhiteRook48: 17...Kb1 doesn't lose as early, but it loses anyway. I prefer the nice finish 17...Kxc1 18. 0-0#
Jan-19-09   WhiteRook48: Yikes! Morphy's play is incredible!
Feb-08-09   tentsewang: Why isn't there a rook on Morphy's side?
Feb-08-09   tentsewang: it's not a checkmate.
Feb-10-09   WhiteRook48: bank rank mate...no, the opponent's back rank!
Mar-21-09   WhiteRook48: why do Morphy's opponents play this line in rook odds <tentsewang> what isn't a checkmate?
Jul-04-09   sileps: I'm dying of laughter. This is the best combination I've seen
Aug-12-09   UnicornChessman: I'd like to see this game again, but with Morphy playing Queen odds, instead of Rook odds. Anyone else also feel that would be insanely fantastic?
Sep-18-09   muwatalli: haha, why would black play the fried liver if he wanted to survive to utilize the rooks.
Sep-19-09
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  Check It Out: Anyone know of any other existing games won by castling checkmate? That'd be a cool games collection.
Oct-14-09   jerseybob: 8..N6b4 is supposedly the test of this line. 8..Nd4? simply gives the piece back with no pain for white.
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