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Paul Morphy vs Alonzo Morphy
"Polymorph" (game of the day Jun-21-2010)
New Orleans ? (1850), New Orleans, LA USA
Chess variants (000)  ·  1-0
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Aug-14-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  naresb: It was the clash of father son duo. The son was so furious with his father that Father's King had to hide from e8 to c1.

Incidently Ra1 seem missing.

The mate was due to 0-0 King castling.

Rarest of the game played so far.

Aug-14-14  Petrosianic: <It was the clash of father son duo.>

They played a lot of games together. There was nothing special about this one.

<The son was so furious with his father that Father's King had to hide from e8 to c1.>

That's what the world needs: more chess fiction.

<Incidently Ra1 seem missing.>

That's because it's an Odds Game. That should have been obvious from the fact that 17...Kc1 was a legal move.

<Rarest of the game played so far.>

Huh?

Aug-16-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  naresb: <Petrosianic: <It was the clash of father son duo.> They played a lot of games together. There was nothing special about this one.

<The son was so furious with his father that Father's King had to hide from e8 to c1.>

That's what the world needs: more chess fiction.

<Incidently Ra1 seem missing.>

That's because it's an Odds Game. That should have been obvious from the fact that 17...Kc1 was a legal move.

<Rarest of the game played so far.>

Huh?>

Thanks for everything, I think u got it all right. Huh???

An Uniquesttttttt game I would rather like to recall it.

Aug-16-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  naresb: BTW Paul Morphy was indeed a gr8 player to watch with such an attacking style games.
Oct-10-14  MSteen: We can learn a lot from Morphy's games: How to be awestruck, how to be amazed, how to be stunned. I never get tired of playing over this game. Not just castling to checkmate, but sacrificing all that material to lure the king deep into enemy territory! Brilliant!
Jun-25-15  gamego: The beauty of Morphy's games takes one's breath away.
Sep-07-15  Devin Larson: How if after the move d3+ then black move Kb1?
Sep-07-15  Devin Larson: I think black is save after kb1
Jan-25-16  MichaelJHuman: Wow, how fun!
Jan-25-16  Papagambit: After 17.d3 if then Kb1 then 18.a3! still wins, W will 0-0 and move the b pawn to b4 and then the QBishop moves decisively 1-0
Jan-29-16  juanhernandez: a different
view
Apr-07-16  yurikvelo: game analysis: http://pastebin.com/iEy1f9Cw
Apr-07-16  capafischer1: Morphy was phenomenal with the initiative. Time and time again i see him sacrficing a pawn or two or a piece sometimes for the initiative. I believe Fischer said Paul Morphy was the most accurate player that ever lived. Not taking to account the opening chess life did an article on who was the most accurate player and morphy came in first place followed by capablanca and fischer. They took 10 of their best games and compared it to top choice of the best computer at the time. If Morphy was alive today and you give him 6 months to study the modern openings it is extremely possible he would be the best ever because of his amazing memory. Remeber he finished law school a couple of years early and memorized close to a 2000 page law book from Louisiana so studying the openings would be a breeze for this super genius. And furthermore it is an absolute fact that nobody was further ahead of his contemporaries than Paul Morphy while he was alive.
Aug-20-16  talhal20: To capafischer from talhal20
I fully agree with you. One patzer has written that modern players take decades to study and master openings with computer engine !!
Aug-20-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: < Not taking to account the opening chess life did an article on who was the most accurate player and morphy came in first place followed by capablanca and fischer. They took 10 of their best games and compared it to top choice of the best computer at the time. >

Never heard of that, which doesn't mean it didn't happen. Do you have a cite?

Mar-31-17  bkpov: You cross a bridge when you come to it. Modern chess , had it been prevalent in those days; Morphy would have mastered it. It's a sacrilege to compare him with anybody. Such mastery...
Mar-31-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: I've always loved this game

*****

Sep-14-17  FSR: <keypusher> This isn't what <capafischer1> was talking about, but it's interesting anyway: http://chesshive.com/2017/01/world-...
Sep-14-17  FSR: <keypusher> This isn't what <capafischer1> was talking about, but it's interesting anyway: http://chesshive.com/2017/01/world-.... Looking at a large number of a player's games, as CAPS does, makes a lot more sense to me than looking at just his ten best games. It's possible for any fairly strong player to play ten games that are just about (possibly entirely) perfect. I've probably played hundreds of perfect games, most against weak players. For example, 1.d4! f6? 2.e4! g5?? 3.Qh5#! I'm a genius! One example of a game I played against a strong player that I think is perfect (apart from a repetition of moves I played to gain time on the clock) is F Rhine vs D Sprenkle, 1981.
Sep-19-17  Olavi: <FSR> Interesting, but it would seem to me that having only the games of each player's top years in the sample would be more reliable. For Karpov fans the last 10-15 years were rather painful, and nowhere near his best; are those included? Also one shouldn't take these things too seriously. It's perfectly possible to play worse than your opponent - in some objective sense - and still beat him/her in a match.
Sep-20-17  FSR: <Olavi: <FSR> Interesting, but it would seem to me that having only the games of each player's top years in the sample would be more reliable. For Karpov fans the last 10-15 years were rather painful, and nowhere near his best; are those included?>

Your position makes sense; otherwise you'd have to conclude that Fischer and Kasparov were much stronger than Karpov because they essentially retired at their peaks. I think that when asking who the greatest player is, people are mostly comparing players at the heights of their respective careers. But I think that longevity also deserves positive recognition where a player has been able to play at a high level for a very long time - Lasker, Korchnoi, and Smyslov are examples.

<It's perfectly possible to play worse than your opponent - in some objective sense - and still beat him/her in a match.>

Very true. I've had many games that I "deserved" to lose, but drew or even won, and the same could be said of my opponents.

Nov-23-17  Cornelius89: Papagambit <After 17.d3 if then Kb1 then 18.a3! still wins, W will 0-0 and move the b pawn to b4 and then the QBishop moves decisively 1-0>

why 18.a3! ? - that just allows 18..Ka2. Much faster I think: 18.Be3 (threatens black Queen), ... 19.O-O# (or vice versa - 17...Kb1. 18.O-O (white pawn on c2 safe by bishop and queen), so same result :)

naresh <They played a lot of games together. There was nothing special about this one.>

You're joking. Aside from the fact that we have a game between the father of one of the greatest chess players before many of the modern chess tactics were developed and that man is itself astounding; regardless of how many games they played together. And how could this game not be amazing - the king ends up at the same row as the white king before the endgame! and mated by a castle!

please, update your definition of 'special' :-)

Nov-23-17  RookFile: When you're a dad you don't mind losing like this if it keeps stimulating your son's imagination.
May-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: I don't understand whey Morphy is considered so great. It took him 18 moves to castle.
Sep-14-18  romancitog: I love these games between father and the son. There is nothing more satisfying to a father than when his son surpasses him and goes on to bigger and better things.
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