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|Feb-02-14|| ||Penguincw: Double rook sacrifice asking for too much.|
|Feb-02-14|| ||mel gibson: Checked with Deep Rybka4.
Black made the bad move on 32...Rxa5.
Should've moved 32...Kg6
to protect the h5 square from the white Queen.
The King has to protect himself against
the mating force of a minor piece & a Queen.
32...Kg6 ends in a draw.
|Feb-02-14|| ||Ultra: I actually got this one.
|Feb-02-14|| ||PJs Studio: I've been coping out on these Saturday and Sunday puzzles lately. Just enjoying the view. This was a particularly pretty finish.|
I thought incorrectly that 39.Rb8+ was the move (forcing Bg8) but after 40.Qxf6 Rg7 white still has 41. Rb7, so i guess white can still win it. I respect this wicked attack more so because whites Queen and rook attacking squares ALSO COVER ALL OF BLACKS RETURN DEFENSIVE SQUARES. A very "fast" attack.
Impressive confidence in whites calculation.
|Feb-02-14|| ||Patriot: Black has the bishop pair.
Two candidates were of main interest to me: Qe8, Nxh6.
36.Nxh6 seems stronger.
36...Bxh6 37.Rh8+ Kxh8 38.Qxh6+ Rh7 39.Rb8+ Bg8 40.Qxf6+ Rg7 41.h5 looks like it should win. Otherwise, white could go for a draw with 41.Qh6+ Rh7 42.Qf6+.
The game line is certainly much better.
|Feb-02-14|| ||Patriot: <morf> You may have missed this only because <but Black is a piece ahead so can give back some material>. I read that and thought "What?! I miscounted the pieces again??". I had to go back and do a re-count. :-) There are several winning moves and 36.Qe8 is one of them. I couldn't seem to find a killer move in the line I went with but it's there: 36.Nxh6 Bxh6 37.Rh8+ Kxh8 38.Qxh6+ Rh7 39.Rb8+ Bg8 40.Qxf6+ Rg7 41.Qh6+ Rh7 42.Qe6! Rg7 43.Rxg7+!|
I missed the simple pin and win in the game line or even in my line with 41.Rb7.
|Feb-02-14|| ||agb2002: White has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair.|
The first idea that comes to mind is 36.Qe8, threatening 37.Qxe6 and 37.Qxf8:
A) 36... Bxf5 37.exf5
A.1) 37... Bd6(e7,g7) 38.Qg8#.
A.2) 37... Kg7(8) 38.Qxd7 + -.
B) 36... Be7 37.Qh8+ Kg6 38.Qxh6+ Kf7 39.Qh7#.
C) 36... Bxc4 37.Qxf8 Qxf8 38.Rxf8 Bxa7 39.Rbb8
C.1) 39... d3 40.Rh8+ Kg6 41.Rxh6+ Kf7 42.Rh7+ Kg6 (42... Ke6 43.Re8+ Re7 44.Re(h)xe7#) 43.Rxd7 + -.
C.2) 39... Kg6 40.Rh8 gxh4 (40... Rh7 41.h5+ and 42.Rxh7) 41.Rxh6+ Kg5 (41... Kf7 42.Rh7+ as in C.1) 42.Bxh4+ Kf4 (42... Kg4 43.f3+ Kf4 44.Kf2 and 45.g3#) 43.Rg6 and 44.Bg3#.
|Feb-02-14|| ||agb2002: Houdini 2.0 evaluates 36.Qe8 at +9 and 36.Nxh6 at +15.|
|Feb-02-14|| ||Poulsen: In fact I saw this fast - after briefly considering Rxf8 - the key move is off course Rh8+ -and the white queen enters the Black camp. I did not bother to calculate after that.|
|Feb-02-14|| ||stst: looks easy, but may miss some escapes for Black:
39.Rb8+ Kf7 (or Qf8 then RxR#)
will check later...
|Feb-02-14|| ||OhioChessFan: Why are people on the anti-Kotov bandwagon?|
|Feb-02-14|| ||Jim Bartle: <Why are people on the anti-Kotov bandwagon?>|
They just don't think like grandmasters.
|Feb-02-14|| ||RandomVisitor: After 33.Rb8:
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Rybka 4.1 x64:
<[+0.19] d=22 33...Qa7> 34.Rdb1 Rb5 35.R8xb5 cxb5 36.cxb5 Qxa2 37.Qd1 Qc4 38.Nxd6 Bxd6 39.Qxd6 Qxe4 40.Rb4 Qd5 41.Qxd5 Bxd5 42.b6 Kg6 43.f3 Rb7 44.Bf2 Kf5 45.Rb2 Ke6 46.hxg5 hxg5 47.Bc5 e4 48.fxe4 Bxe4
[+2.17] d=22 33...Kg6 34.Rxd6 Ra3 35.h5+ Kh7 36.Rxe6 Rxf3 37.gxf3 Bg7 38.Rbe8 Bf8 39.Rc8 Qa7 40.Rcxc6 Bg7 41.Nxg7 Kxg7 42.Rxf6 Rxf6 43.Bxe5 Qb8 44.Bxf6+ Kf7 45.Bd4 g4 46.Rxh6 Qd8 47.Rf6+ Ke8 48.Be5 gxf3
|Feb-02-14|| ||stst: essentially got the thing, only that later the variation goes alternate route.|
36 Qe8 wont work, as no penetration, nor separating the Black pieces, could be accomplished.
|Feb-02-14|| ||stst: BTW I got the right Super Bowl pick, as before I was one point down, then I was forced to pick the Hawks mathematically in order to have a chance coming back up, and it did the job!!
Like horse racing, remember the Triple Crown hopeful - Big Brown? The Broncos behaved exactly like that!!!|
|Feb-02-14|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Alexey Sokolsky - Alexander Kotov [B51]
Moscow, (RUS); (8) / 27,10,1949.
Sunday; 02 Feb. 02, 2014
(Superbowl Sunday, #48)
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5+ Nc6 4.0-0 a6 5.Bxc6+ bxc6 6.d4 cxd4 7.Qxd4 e5 8.Qd3 Nf6 9.Rd1 Be7 10.Bg5 0-0 11.Nbd2 Qc7 12.Nc4 Rd8 13.Ne3 Be6 14.c4 Rab8 15.Qc2 Rb7 16.Rac1 Qb8 17.b3 h6 18.Bh4 g5 19.Bg3 Nd7 20.h4 f6 21.Ne1 Nc5 22.Nd3 Qa7 23.Nxc5 Qxc5 24.Qe2 Bf8 25.Qh5 Kh7 26.Ng4 Bg7 27.Ne3 a5 28.Qf3 a4 29.bxa4 Ra8 30.Nf5 Bf8 31.Rb1 Rf7 32.a5 Rxa5 33.Rb8 d5 34.Qh5 d4 35.Rdb1 Rd7 36.Nxh6! Bxh6?;
Perhaps a full question mark is a bit severe,however, in this case, I think that it is fully warranted. (Unless Kotov was severely short of time.)
[Black 's best defense was (probably) 36...Kg7; yet it should still lose: >/= 36...Kg7 37.hxg5 Rb5; 38.gxf6+ Kxf6; 39.cxb5!?,
when White has an easy win on the material scale, and Black's King is also badly exposed.]
37.Rh8+ Kxh8 38.Qxh6+ Rh7 39.Qxf6+ Rg7 40.Rb7, 1-0
|Feb-02-14|| ||RandomVisitor: After 35...Rd7:
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Rybka 4.1 x64:
<[+M12] d=18 36.R1b7> Ra7 37.Nxh6 Kg7 38.hxg5 Raxb7 39.g6 Rb1+ 40.Kh2 Rh1+ 41.Kxh1 Qxc4 42.Nf7 Qf1+ 43.Kh2 Qxg2+ 44.Kxg2 Bh3+ 45.Kxh3 f5 46.Bxe5+ Kg8 47.Nh6+
[+M14] d=18 36.Nxh6 Kg7 37.hxg5 fxg5 38.Qxg5+ Kh7 39.Nf5 Bxf5 40.Qxf5+ Kg7 41.Qxd7+ Qe7 42.Qg4+ Kh6 43.R1b7 Qg5 44.Qh3+ Qh5 45.Rh7+ Kxh7 46.Qxh5+ Bh6 47.Qf5+ Kg7 48.Rb7+ Kh8 49.Rb8+
[+7.74] d=17 36.Qe8 Rf7 37.Qxe6 Raa7 38.R1b3 Kg6 39.Rc8 d3 40.Rxd3 Qb4 41.Rd1 Qc3 42.Rdd8 Qb4 43.Bxe5 Qe1+ 44.Kh2 Qxe4 45.h5+ Kh7 46.Nd6 Qxe5+ 47.Qxe5 fxe5 48.Nxf7
[+7.64] d=17 36.hxg5 Bf7 37.Qh3 Be6 38.g6+ Kxg6 39.Re8 Bf7 40.Nh4+ Kg7 41.Qxd7 Ra7 42.Rb7 Rxb7 43.Qxb7 d3 44.Rd8 h5 45.Rxd3 Qb4 46.Qxb4 Bxb4 47.Rd7 Kf8 48.Rc7 Bxc4 49.Rxc6 Bxa2 50.Rxf6+ Ke8 51.Rb6
|Feb-03-14|| ||mel gibson: Chris,
"An fly duffed him up pet being cuffed do bit down d5 afraid to seems caught in the act d4 in every am route again one to dig rook a flight d7 unstable string a7 to be a feel snuff age in safe got I mean what about h7 in g6 ide getoff my cloud change off re you haved6 coming about dangled in space although a link to infer tile ground about equal."
can you write using correct English grammar please.
Your sentences are meaningless
|Feb-04-14|| ||Poulsen: @mel gibson - all his posts are like that. Its some sort of slang combined with horrible grammar - but I guess it makes perfectly sense to him.|
He is literally writing as he speaks - I suspect.
Off course he could also be having a laugh ....
I tried to put the text into a translator, but no translator available allows you to translate english - into english.
|Feb-04-14|| ||offramp: <Poulsen: @mel gibson - all his posts are like that.>|
User: chrisowen's havering is actually an unfunny rip-off of the original stylings of
|Feb-04-14|| ||OhioChessFan: I have been wavering the past week on deciding if <Greystripe> is just disturbed or if it's a really unfunny attempt to rip off <chrisowens>|
|Feb-04-14|| ||offramp: I would guess that <Greystripe> was about 15-years-of-age but there is NO WAY that <chrisowen> is anywhere over 12 years of age. No way.|
And <chrisowen> is definitely copying <Greystripe>.
He at first used a double-Google Translate system but once <Greystripe> started cutting his shapes <Owen> realised he had been outdone.
It's a fascinating story!
|Feb-04-14|| ||mel gibson: Thanks guys - well - I will never try to read his garbage again.|
|Feb-05-14|| ||OhioChessFan: <offramp> <chrisowens> has been here about 8 years. <Greystripe> has been here about 3 weeks. Maybe you're being facetious and I'm missing it.|
|Feb-05-14|| ||offramp: Well if <chrisowen> has been here 8 years I suppose he must be about 20. That is really shocking. I can hardly believe he is that old. Must be a group of people.|
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