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| Apr-09-08 | | Riverbeast: <JimfromProvidence> I still like black in that position. 29...Nd7 prepares for a leap to c5 or e5 (white would lose a pawn on 30. b4 Ne5) If 30. Nf3, 30. ...Qf4 maintains the pressure (threatening ...Nc5 and ...Bxf5) |
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| Apr-09-08 | | Riverbeast: <I would be interested in what people thought of 29.g4 instead?> After 29. g4, ...h5 looks strong
<Capa writes, about 47 c5, that it was forced because otherwise Rb2 wins a piece. I don't see it. I mean, Ndb1 doesn't look great for white, but I don't see him losing a piece... explanation?> After ...Rb2, if white plays Ndb1 then ...Rab3. The knights are immobilized and black plays ...d5 and ...d4 If Ncb1, ...Rxg3 and ...d5 wins easily enough
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Apr-09-08
 | | Jimfromprovidence: <Riverbeast> <I still like black in that position. 29...Nd7 prepares for a leap to c5 or e5 (white would lose a pawn on 30. b4 Ne5) If 30, Nf3, 30. ...Qf4 maintains the pressure (threatening ...Nc5 and ...Bxf5)> Assuming 29…Nd7 30 Nf3 Qf4, then 31 b4.
click for larger viewI’m not seeing a breakthrough for either side at this point. |
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| Apr-09-08 | | Riverbeast: <JimfromProvidence> In that position, 31...b5 prepares to exchange white's c4 pawn (if 32. cxb5 axb5) and play ...d5 |
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Apr-09-08
| | Jimfromprovidence: Riverbeast> <In that position, 31...b5 prepares to exchange white's c4 pawn (if 32. cxb5 axb5) and play ...d5> OK. After 31… b5 32 cxb5 axb5 white plays 33 g3!
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Apr-09-08
| | Jimfromprovidence: In retrospect, I think white should have played g3 earlier, specifically 31 g3 after 29…Nd7 30 Nf3 Qf4.
click for larger viewBlack's best play might be to retreat after 29…Nd7 30 Nf3 with 30…Qf6. |
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| Apr-09-08 | | Riverbeast: <JimfromProvidence> Good move. I didn't see 33. g3 I still feel black is better here though... but I saw problems with my suggested ...Nf6 after 31. b4 (specifically, it doesn't threaten ...Bxf5 because of g3 again...After the queen ends up on h3, white plays Nd4 and Nxf5) It's trickier than I thought. After 31. b4 maybe ...h5 is best. That way the queen can retreat to h6 after white plays g3, and the threats arising from the pin on the e3 rook are maintained (...b5, ...d5, etc) |
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| Apr-09-08 | | Riverbeast: <JumfromProvidence> And in the position above, I think black can safely take on g3....After the queen ends up on h3 white no longer has Nd4 and Nxc6 (unless there's another tactical trick I'm missing) |
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Apr-09-08
 | | ganso: <Professeur Y> <Euripides> Yes, Capa must have written, in Spanish, "ganar la calidad a cambio de un peón," which translates literally as "win the quality in exchange for a pawn," but really means "win the exchange for a pawn" |
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Apr-09-08
| | Jimfromprovidence: <Riverbeast> <And in the position above, I think black can safely take on g3....After the queen ends up on h3 white no longer has Nd4 and Nxc6 (unless there's another tactical trick I'm missing)> I strongly believe that playing 30…Qf4 puts black in peril. After 29…Nd7 30 Nf3 Qf4 31 g3, then 31…Qxg3+. Now 32 Rg2 Qxh3 33 Ne2, (threatening Rg3). 
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Apr-09-08
 | | rogl: It is not only in French and Spanish that winning the exchange is literally translated to winning the quality. This is also true in German "die Qualität gewinnen" and Swedish "vinna kvalitet" and I'm sure in several other languages. |
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| Apr-09-08 | | drpoundsign: Props to the "Mozart" of chess. Beating grown men in Kindergarten. What a Genius |
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| May-09-08 | | jeeky1996: Lasker was having emotional problems at that time, so he was pretty nervous and lost to Capablanca. I still trying to analyse it. |
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| May-09-08 | | Riverbeast: <JimfromProvidence> I never saw your reply until now, so we didn't get to continue our analysis. Since g3 is such a troublesome move, after your initial suggestion of 29. Rfe3, I suggest 29...h5 immediately. This way, if the black queen on f4 is attacked by g3, she can retreat to h6, maintain the pressure on the e3 rook, and play for ...d5. If white's queen takes on d6, ...Bxf5 looks good for black Black has to be better. White's dark squares are too weak. Lasker's 28. f5 was a highly anti-positional move. (I think Fischer was probably thinking of games like this, when he said Lasker was a "coffeehouse player" who "didn't understand positional chess") |
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May-13-08
| | Jimfromprovidence: <riverbeast> I think in that case, after 29 Rfe3 h5, then 30 b4.
click for larger viewDespite the awkwardness of white's position, he appears to be adequately defended. |
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| Oct-17-08 | | AAAAron: Ok can someone PLEASE explain why Capablanca didn't take the pawn on e4 right away with 4. Nxe4. The only possible explanation for this is that playing as black he did not want to lose another tempo. |
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Oct-17-08
 | | Shams: <AAAARon> taking on e4 is the most popular move by far:
Opening Explorer of course, white will get the pawn back promptly. |
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Oct-17-08
 | | maxi: <AAAAron>: In general, in these positions in the opening where both sides have played their e Pawns to the center, it is not good for Black to take the e Pawn if the e file becomes open (clear of Pawns and pieces), since White's extra tempo becomes more noticeable. |
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| Jul-23-09 | | Ricosupercapo: For some unexplained reason, there is no scoresheet in the game. Has someone deleted the moves? |
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Jul-23-09
 | | OhioChessFan: Can you imagine a live game on this site and a move like Kh2 in the decisive game for the WC? |
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| Jul-23-09 | | jussu: <maxi>, quite the contary. When black can grab a white central pawn without immediate tactical disaster, this is usually the best move. As <Shams> pointed out, 4...Nxe4 is by far the most popular move. The same applies for e.g. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. 0-0?! Nxe4, or even the neat standard combination 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nxe4. Typically, black is not able to hold on to the extra material but anyway, a juicy central pawn is usually worth grabbing. |
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Jan-25-10
 | | chancho: <euripedes Calli> Quality is calidad in Spanish.
In Chess, it's meaning is to win the "exchange."(ganar la calida)
So Capa was saying that white(Lasker)could have regained the exchange for a pawn had he played 33.g4 followed by e5 and Ne4. |
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Oct-19-10
 | | sevenseaman: After an absorbing engagement if a winner talks what all his opponent could have done for a better result in his favor, its more an expression of relief than a boast. The controlling muscles in the tongue just loosen up when imminence of danger is gone. |
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| Oct-07-11 | | lostgalaxy: The original way of the Indian game.
Black ignores the d6 "weakness" for piece play. I think everything about chess was already mastered by the eldsters. |
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| Oct-07-11 | | bronkenstein: <The original way of the Indian game. > My thoughts exactly.
This is one of proto King´s Indians ( Exactly the way the ´founders´ of it , Bronstein , Gligoric, Geller and Boleslavsky played some 20-30 (!) years later , with weakness on d6 compensated by rich dynamics, somewhat blasphemic concept in those times ). Capa´s legendary intuition whispered him that the position is , in fact, OK =) |
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