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Viktor Korchnoi vs Anatoly Karpov
"Unkorched" (game of the day Nov-02-08)
Karpov - Korchnoi World Championship Match (1978)  ·  Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Bishop Attack (E47)  ·  0-1
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Jun-19-11  DrMAL: Thanx for that story, makes sense. The other natural responses, 39.h3 or 39.h4 give a mate in 4. The blunder 38.Ra1 already allowed black a draw after either 39.g3 or 39.g4 it's a pity Korchnoi threw away this game!
Jun-23-11  Tigranny: Wouldn't the game end as 39.g3 Rc1+ 40.Kg2 Rf1 41.a5 Rf2+ 42.Kg1 Rf1+ 43.Kg2 Rf2+ as a draw by repetition (because 44.Kh3?? leads to 44...Ng5+ 45.Kg4 Nxh7)?
Jun-23-11  DrMAL: <Tigranny:> Yes, either 39.g3 or 39.g4 allowed black a draw, this is what I meant above, glad you clarified further. :-)
Jun-24-11  Tigranny: Thanks DrMAL.
Sep-07-11
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  Honza Cervenka: <keypusher> Well, there were some pretty good Soviet players born in 1940s: Savon, Balashov, Tukmakov, Tseshkovsky, Kuzmin, Kupreichik, Grigorian, Gulko, Dvoretsky, Dzindzichashvili just to name some of them. And of course, Nona Gaprindashvili was born in 1941. But it is true that the generation of "world champions" and other world-class Soviet players born in 1920s and early 1930s was far more dominant, numerous and persistant (guys like Smyslov, Tal, Spassky, Korchnoi, Petrosian, Bronstein, Geller, Polugaevsky, Kholmov, Vasiukov, Taimanov, Stein, Averbakh and others from that generation were still among world elite in 1980s, if they were alive). I think that it has something to do with popularity of chess among Soviet youth, which was enormous especially after 1925 Moscow international tournament and again 1935 and 1936 tournaments in Moscow and Leningrad. WW2 had quite understandably very negative impact on chess life there, and interest in competitive chess somewhat decreased despite of its persisting popularity among general population. After WW2 it was revived to some degree but it never reached the level of its pre-WW2 heyday. Ice-hockey, football (soccer) and other sports, not to mention completely different activities, were hard competition for chess in getting attention from youngsters. Only with arrival of Karpov and especially Kasparov, who became real icons and were (unlike their predecessors) also able to make big money by playing chess, the interest in competitive chess was able to reach a new higher level with inflow of super-talented youngsters.
Jan-31-12  drukenknight: Can someone please tell me what is the proper follow up to 9 Bd2?
Jan-31-12  King Death: < BobCrisp: I'm not really sure that 25 million Soviets perished during WW2, seems a tad high; depends how you work the figures, I imagine. I suppose Geller, born 1925, was fortunate to make it through that <alleged> Ukrainian famine but then I guess he didn't come from kulak stock.>

Yeah, the "alleged" famine never happened, here are some sources in re your ridiculous claim:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodo...

http://www.holodomor.org.uk/

http://www.holodomorct.org/history....

Do you also deny that the Holocaust ever took place? We need more folks like you.

Apr-06-12
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  FSR: Larsen wrote of this game in his book on the match that Korchnoi "lost a position it seemed impossible to lose."
Apr-07-12  King Death: <FSR> There were so many "what might have beens" for Viktor The Terrible in this match. Did that bad handling of his clock ever cost him.
Apr-07-12  Penguincw: I saw this game before. White should've just pushed the g-pawn forward.
Aug-16-12
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  harrylime: If any one game captures the essence of Karpov,this is it.
Aug-16-12
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  harrylime: If any one game captures the essence of Karpov,this is it.
Mar-22-14  Conrad93: Karpov has never appealed to me.

In an interview Fischer said that most of the elite players are not that good, they just happen to work like dogs, and I think Karpov falls into that category.

He had no natural talent. He was just a by-product of the Soviet machine.

Mar-22-14  Conrad93: His chess lacks the brilliance and smoothness of Fischer.
Mar-22-14
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  perfidious: <Jim Bartle: Seirawan was a Korchnoi second, and wrote how it was to watch Korchnoi bungle a strong position into a seemingly impossible loss.>

Seirawan was not a second to Korchnoi when this match was played, a role he assumed in 1980.

Mar-24-14
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  thegoodanarchist: <Conrad93: Karpov has never appealed to me.

In an interview Fischer said that most of the elite players are not that good...>

Well, Fischer had some kooky views but here it sounds as if you may have misquoted him.

If "elite" players are not that good, then who is good? The players beaten by the elites?

Makes no sense. Someone has to be good at chess, if not from an absolute perspective (compared to a super engine) at least from a relative standpoint (compared to other humans).

Mar-25-14  RookFile: Anything is possible, but I don't remember Fischer saying this.
Apr-03-14  Conrad93: Fischer was talking abut natural talent.

Players like Karpov are just the by-product of the Soviet machine.

Give any decent chess player the same resources, and they would be at the same level.

Apr-03-14  Conrad93: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlX...
Apr-03-14  Howard: "Perfidious" is correct in that Seirawan was not Korchnoi's second in the 1978 match, but he was in the 1980 Candidates matches, as well as in the 1981 W.C. against Karpov.

Keene and Stean were the seconds in the 1978 match.

Apr-03-14  Petrosianic: <Keene and Stean were the seconds in the 1978 match.>

That's correct.

Apr-03-14
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  john barleycorn: <In an interview Fischer said that most of the elite players are not that good.>

he said "not that talented but they work like dogs".

Apr-03-14  DrChopper: Well, if there is a guy who was gifted in the last decades, it was Karpov. He has a great understanding of the game like Capablanca and didn't need to work as much as others did. When you see his games, it's not his deep preparations and calculations that you see, it's more about his understanding of the position and his technique. Anyway, he dominated the game for so much time and was still fighting hard against the top players in the 90s. He's with Kramnik, one of the few who has a good record vs Kasparov, it says a lot. You can say that you don't like his style but don't say he wasn't brilliant; you can't argue against results.
Apr-03-14  Conrad93: He would probably put Karpov in that category.
Apr-03-14  DrChopper: Maybe but he decided to not fight vs a so easy prey. Anyway, interpret whatever you want but we will never know what Fischer was really thinking and feeling.
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