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Viktor Korchnoi vs Anatoly Karpov
"Unkorched" (game of the day Nov-02-08)
Karpov - Korchnoi World Championship (1978)  ·  Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Bishop Attack (E47)  ·  0-1
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Jan-31-12  drukenknight: Can someone please tell me what is the proper follow up to 9 Bd2?
Jan-31-12  King Death: < BobCrisp: I'm not really sure that 25 million Soviets perished during WW2, seems a tad high; depends how you work the figures, I imagine. I suppose Geller, born 1925, was fortunate to make it through that <alleged> Ukrainian famine but then I guess he didn't come from kulak stock.>

Yeah, the "alleged" famine never happened, here are some sources in re your ridiculous claim:

Do you also deny that the Holocaust ever took place? We need more folks like you.

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  FSR: Larsen wrote of this game in his book on the match that Korchnoi "lost a position it seemed impossible to lose."
Apr-07-12  King Death: <FSR> There were so many "what might have beens" for Viktor The Terrible in this match. Did that bad handling of his clock ever cost him.
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  Penguincw: I saw this game before. White should've just pushed the g-pawn forward.
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  harrylime: If any one game captures the essence of Karpov,this is it.
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  harrylime: If any one game captures the essence of Karpov,this is it.
Mar-22-14  Conrad93: Karpov has never appealed to me.

In an interview Fischer said that most of the elite players are not that good, they just happen to work like dogs, and I think Karpov falls into that category.

He had no natural talent. He was just a by-product of the Soviet machine.

Mar-22-14  Conrad93: His chess lacks the brilliance and smoothness of Fischer.
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  perfidious: <Jim Bartle: Seirawan was a Korchnoi second, and wrote how it was to watch Korchnoi bungle a strong position into a seemingly impossible loss.>

Seirawan was not a second to Korchnoi when this match was played, a role he assumed in 1980.

Mar-24-14  thegoodanarchist: <Conrad93: Karpov has never appealed to me.

In an interview Fischer said that most of the elite players are not that good...>

Well, Fischer had some kooky views but here it sounds as if you may have misquoted him.

If "elite" players are not that good, then who is good? The players beaten by the elites?

Makes no sense. Someone has to be good at chess, if not from an absolute perspective (compared to a super engine) at least from a relative standpoint (compared to other humans).

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  RookFile: Anything is possible, but I don't remember Fischer saying this.
Apr-03-14  Conrad93: Fischer was talking abut natural talent.

Players like Karpov are just the by-product of the Soviet machine.

Give any decent chess player the same resources, and they would be at the same level.

Apr-03-14  Conrad93:
Apr-03-14  Howard: "Perfidious" is correct in that Seirawan was not Korchnoi's second in the 1978 match, but he was in the 1980 Candidates matches, as well as in the 1981 W.C. against Karpov.

Keene and Stean were the seconds in the 1978 match.

Apr-03-14  Petrosianic: <Keene and Stean were the seconds in the 1978 match.>

That's correct.

Apr-03-14  john barleycorn: <In an interview Fischer said that most of the elite players are not that good.>

he said "not that talented but they work like dogs".

Apr-03-14  DrChopper: Well, if there is a guy who was gifted in the last decades, it was Karpov. He has a great understanding of the game like Capablanca and didn't need to work as much as others did. When you see his games, it's not his deep preparations and calculations that you see, it's more about his understanding of the position and his technique. Anyway, he dominated the game for so much time and was still fighting hard against the top players in the 90s. He's with Kramnik, one of the few who has a good record vs Kasparov, it says a lot. You can say that you don't like his style but don't say he wasn't brilliant; you can't argue against results.
Apr-03-14  Conrad93: He would probably put Karpov in that category.
Apr-03-14  DrChopper: Maybe but he decided to not fight vs a so easy prey. Anyway, interpret whatever you want but we will never know what Fischer was really thinking and feeling.
Sep-21-14  RubinSteinitz: Isn't this the game where the Zukhar affair come to a head? Korchnoi left his clock running and threatened to punch the paraphsychologist in the nose for giving him the evil eye. Victor claimed the Soviets had Zukhar tuned into Korchnoi staring him into a nervous wreck. Korchnoi had an advantage in the game but began to lose the thread and eventually the game due to "The Evil Eye." Up to move 39, Korchnoi had a draw in hand but then blundered into a mate in 3.

Sep-21-14  Olavi: <RubinSteinitz: Isn't this the game where the Zukhar affair come to a head? Korchnoi left his clock running and threatened to punch the paraphsychologist in the nose for giving him the evil eye.>

Yes, and "The main development was Ms. Leeuwerik's new habit of trying to distract him by kicking his shins and jabbing the small of his back with a pen." Raymond Keene

Sep-21-14  domradave: I saw this game on public television.
The host, Shelby Lyman, was stunned by the conclusion. I saw the conclusion recently in a chess
puzzle book and knew it immediately!
Poor Korchnoi!
Feb-24-16  joseamaraldasilva: how about ukrainian ,stonian and latvian colaboration with germans in the concentration camps doing the dirty work ,that the "superior race " didn,t want to endure ? That,s too a historic fact .
Feb-05-17  Sularus: my favorite swindle
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