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|Dec-25-06|| ||Kwesi: It's like a Queenside 'Greek Gift'.|
|Oct-14-09|| ||UnsoundHero: The great aspect of Qc6 is that it fixes black's Pc7, which cuts off the entire black army from defending its own king. It's true that white is sacrificing a whole queen, along with a piece, but the result is that black's queen, 2 rooks, bishop, and knight are unable to come to the defense. It's like sacrificing 2 pieces to win 5 pieces.|
This game reminds me of E Nikolic - Fischer, Vinkovci, 1968, where Fischer sacrificed a bishop to immobilize white's "bishop-pawn" next to white's king, where it was a sitting duck.
|Oct-14-09|| ||Phony Benoni: <Kwesi: It's like a Queenside 'Greek Gift'.>|
Exactly. Had the position been mirrored on the kingside, Black would have been wary of playing ...Bxg5 because the Bxh7+ theme is so well known.
By the way, the pun is a twist on the phrase "Same old same old", referring to something that happens routinely.
|Oct-14-09|| ||lzromeu: <UnsoundHero: It's like sacrificing 2 pieces to win 5 pieces.>|
Exactly. It's a board trap
|Oct-14-09|| ||Thrajin: Too bad this victory didn't hinge on Samo leaving a piece en prise. Then we could have used the pun "Samo Hung" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammo_...).|
|Oct-14-09|| ||Kinghunt: Black still has some drawing chances after 13...Nxe3! 14. Qxc7 Ka8 15.fxe3 Bxb5. After 13... Bxb5 it's simply over.|
|Oct-14-09|| ||kevin86: vicious q side attack!|
|Oct-14-09|| ||randomsac: Qc6! is such an awesome move that I started laughing at how pinned down the black king is that a back rank mate is unavoidable. Qc6! quite a move.|
|Oct-14-09|| ||Jim Bartle: "Had the position been mirrored on the kingside, Black would have been wary of playing ...Bxg5 because the Bxh7+ theme is so well known."|
Now this event being the "Mechanics Institute Marathon," it's possible Samo was falling asleep during the game.
|Oct-14-09|| ||TheaN: You have strong moves and strong moves: 16....Kc8? 17.Qc6! bxc6 (18.Ra8‡ otherwise) 18.bxc6 Kb8 (19.Ra8‡) 19.Raf1 with 20.Ra8‡ 1-0. How powerful, and how seemingly easy.|
|Oct-14-09|| ||Starf1re: Short and sweet.|
|Oct-14-09|| ||WhiteRook48: powerful. Like a Bxh7+ attack only on the other side of the board|
|Oct-14-09|| ||YetAnotherAmateur: 15. ... Kb6 appears to allow black to survive a bit longer, although it's still a loss, after 16. Qb4.|
A) If 16. ... c6 or 16. ... c5
17. bxc6 (possibly e.p.) Kc7
B) If 16. ... Ra8
17. Rxa8 and black only succeeds in delaying white another move.
C) If any other move
17. Qa5+ Kc5
18. b5+ Kc4
19. Nd2+ Kd4
20. Qa7+ Kc3
21. Qa3+ Kxd2 or Kd4
|Oct-14-09|| ||abcpokerboy: Dennis (aka "Swami" to his friends) was living in Berkeley back in those days, playing and studying with the likes of John Grefe and Walter Browne. He's still playing poker, but out of chess.|
|Oct-14-09|| ||RandomVisitor: 4 minutes per move:
Dennis Waterman - Samo
Mechanics Institute Marathon, 1974
[Rybka 3 ]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.Qe2 d6 5.d4 Bd7 6.Bxc6 Bxc6 7.Nc3 last book move
8.0-0 0.41/18 0-0-0 0.59/20
[Rybka 3 : 8...g6 9.Qc4 0-0-0 10.d5 Bd7 0.41/18 ]
9.d5 0.59/22 Bd7 0.86/20
[Rybka 3 : 9...Be8 10.a4 g6 11.a5 Kb8 12.b4 h5 13.b5 h4 14.h3 Bh6 15.Bxh6 Rxh6 16.b6 a6 17.Rfb1 c6 18.dxc6 Bxc6 19.Rd1 Rhh8 20.Qc4 0.59/22 ]
10.a4 0.58/18 g6 1.30/19
[Rybka 3 : 10...Kb8 11.Ra3 h6 12.Rb3 Ka8 13.Nb5 c5 14.Nd2 g5 15.Nc4 Be8 16.f3 Rg8 17.Bd2 Nh5 0.58/18 ]
[Rybka 3 : 11.Nb5 Kb8 1.30/19 ]
[Rybka 3 : 12.Ra3 c6 13.a5 Bg7 14.dxc6 Bxc6 15.Rb3 Ka8 16.a6 b6 17.Bg5 Rc8 18.Rd1 h6 19.Bxf6 Bxf6 20.Nd2 Rhd8 21.Nc4 Qe6 22.Nd5 0.96/18 ]
[Rybka 3 : 12...c6 13.a5 a6 14.Qb3 Ng4 15.Bb6 Rc8 16.h3 Nf6 17.Be3 0.62/17 ]
[Rybka 3 : 13.Bxa7+ Kxa7 14.Nb5+ Ka6 15.Nxc7+ Ka7 16.Nb5+ 3.62/16 ]
[Rybka 3 : 13...Nxe3 14.Qxc7+ Ka8 15.Qa5 a6 16.fxe3 Rc8 17.Qb6 Bxb5 18.axb5 Qc7 19.Qxc7 Rxc7 20.Ng5 Bh6 21.Nxf7 Bxe3+ 22.Kh1 Rf8 23.Nxd6 Rxf1+ 24.Rxf1 Rxc2 25.bxa6 bxa6 26.g3 Bc5 27.Nf7 Rxb2 28.Nxe5 Re2 1.88/20 ]
14.Bxa7+ 4.77/20 Kxa7? 19.49/13
[Rybka 3 : 14...Kc8 15.axb5 Kd7 16.b6 Rc8 17.bxc7 Ke8 4.77/20 ]
15.axb5+ 16.25/14 Kb8 16.11/13
16.Ra3 15.63/13 Kc8? #4/3
[Rybka 3 : 16...Nf6 17.Rfa1 15.63/13 ]
17.Qc6 #4/3 1-0
|Oct-14-09|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: Curious to know if anybody follows move by move the discursive analyses presented by RandomVisitor or simply skips them as I routinely do as they don't teach me anything on the thinking process actuating the moves.|
|Oct-14-09|| ||RandomVisitor: <ROO.BOOKAROO>Some people find the computer analysis to be a useful starting point for their own personal exploration of the game.|
It can tell you the <possible> location of blunders by the players, and who generally had the advantage at any given point.
|Oct-14-09|| ||ycbaywtb: i've got to remember this kind of stuff, and when it's right to attack on the flanks|
|Oct-19-09|| ||kevin86: A coy queen sac that seals in the king so that mate is inescapable.|
|Dec-31-09|| ||ChessDryad: Samo was a class B player and a pool hustler. He used to hang out at the Cherryland Cafe in Hayward (CA).|
|Jan-16-14|| ||FSR: Very nice finish.|
|Jan-16-14|| ||perfidious: <FSR> Cute one indeed, from an old poker foe.|
Dennis was a strong master and went on to become an even better poker player.
|Jan-16-14|| ||Shams: White is probably User: King Death, who unfortunately doesn't post here anymore. I say probably because when he wrote his user bio, <King Death> claimed he lived in Myrtle Point, OR; whereas per wikipedia Waterman is merely *from* Myrtle Point, now living in Arizona. It seems unlikely that a minuscule Beaver State hamlet is home to more than one dual chess/poker master, but anything is possible.|
|Jan-16-14|| ||FSR: <Shams> Interesting theory. Since <King Death> says that "A long time ago, I had a ~2220 FIDE rating," quite possible. Too bad he stopped posting. He was one of my favorite commenters.|
|Jan-16-14|| ||perfidious: <FSR> and <Shams> On meeting Dennis in a poker event in Tunica, Mississippi in 2003, we played at the same table for a while.|
After we were both eliminated, we got to chat a bit about chess. Dennis mentioned that he had dropped by the US Chess championship the previous year, where he had got to renew acquaintances with Larry Christiansen et al. Nice, laid-back guy; it was a pleasure talking with him.
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