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| Mar-14-03 |
| ughaibu: Capablanca producing a beautiful game by opening preparation alone. |
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| Mar-23-03 |
| Lethe: I don't think that was *just* opening prep. Probably Capa saw that his opponent was going to copy moves, and exploited that to set up an attack. But still...wow... |
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Mar-23-03
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| ChessPraxis: It's very dangerous for Black to simply play symmetrically. It doesn't matter which opening. White can usually choose a good time to brealk the symmetry and get a great game (or even mate)! |
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| Apr-13-03 |
| chessamateur: Chess theoretically should end in a draw, but Black cannot just copy white's move because somewhere down the line there will be a check or a capture that black can't make and/or allow without lost of material or the game. Black has to do something else. If it weren't for those 2 factors (check and capture with loss of material) I bet Black could draw by copying White's moves. Why do i think that? Because both sides start with no weaknesses. By the way, have you ever tried setting the board up with all the pieces but no pawns in front of them. Try it, and play White. See if you can win the game from there. I tried it, i couldn't. For an afterthought, if we knew how to draw in chess (by being symmetrical) then Chess would be boring and would cease to exist. And for a thought on this game, I bet Capablanca was smiling inside once he saw his opponent was just copying his moves. He knew he'd show them that they can't draw with the immortal Capablanca by just copying. He knew it and he showed 'em the consequence. |
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Apr-14-03
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| Calli: I have this score as a Four Knights. Puzzled me at first because I could not find it. Anyway I think this is correct: Capablanca,J - N. N. [C49]
New York, 1918
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bb5 Bb4 5.0-0 0-0 6.d3 d6 7.Bg5 Bg4 8.Nd5 Nd4 9.Nxb4 Nxb5 10.Nd5 Nd4 11.Qd2 Qd7 12.Bxf6 Bxf3 13.Ne7+ Kh8 14.Bxg7+ Kxg7 15.Qg5+ Kh8 16.Qf6# 1-0 11 ...Qd7? He has to play Bxf3 to avoid immediate loss. 11...Bxf3 12.Bxf6 gxf6 13.Qh6 Ne2+ 14.Kh1 Bxg2+ 15.Kxg2 Kh8 16.Nxf6 Rg8+ etc |
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| May-12-03 |
| Shadout Mapes: chessamateur, an interesting thought, I've set up the board with no pawns and had fun games with friends. However, I recently got Fritz, and if you put in a game with no pawns, it gives white as 3 points ahead. Have a shootout between two computers, white always wins a piece. |
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Aug-15-04
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| percyblakeney: If the game starts without pawns, white will be a piece up after 1.Bb5+ Nd7 2.Qe2+ Qe7 3.Rxa8 Rxh1 4.Rxc8+. 1. ... Bd7 doesn’t work either: 2.Rxa8 Rxh1 3.Bxd7+. |
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Oct-12-04
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| kevin86: A comical finish follows 11... xe7 12  xe7  e2+ 13  h1 black cannot repeat the mate combination because the queen is gone! |
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Oct-12-04
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| Willem Wallekers: I don't believe this. 11. Qd2 is very bad as Black gets a clear advantage by 11 ... Nxf3+. The same thing in Calli's version. Or was Capa making a joke? |
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| Oct-12-04 |
| clocked: <Willem Wallekers> "Clear advantage"? Actually white is better. g-file, better bishops, f7, move ahead. |
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Oct-12-04
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| Willem Wallekers: <Actually white is better. >
Give me a line. |
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| Oct-12-04 |
| clocked: First let's make sure we are talking about the same game. You say 11.Qd2 and then say "same...Calli's version". However, Calli's version is the one with 11.Qd2. My comment is directed to the game for this page... 9.Qd2 Nxf3+ 10.gxf3 Bxf3 11.h3!
11...Kh8 12.Kh2 Rg8 13.Rg1
11...c6 12.Nxf6+ gxf6 13.Bh4 |
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| Oct-12-04 |
| clocked: <Willem Wallekers> White is also good in Calli's version: 11.Qd2 Nxf3+ 12.gxf3 Bxf3 where white can play 13.Bxf6 gxf6 14.Qe3 or as above with 13.h3 |
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Dec-25-04
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| Gregor Samsa Mendel: What happens if black plays 9...Bxf3? |
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| Dec-25-04 |
| russep: another game where black copies whites moves and gets trashed |
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| Jul-06-05 |
| beatgiant: <Gregor Samsa Mendel: What happens if black plays 9...Bxf3?> Probably 9...Bxf3 10. Bxf6 gxf6 11. Qh6, etc.  |
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| Jan-01-06 |
| DoctorChess: I know 11. Ne7+ gave NN a heartattack.
Chess is not symmetrical. I totally agree with chessamateur. |
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| Feb-22-06 |
| Whitehat1963: A great puzzle after 10...Bxf3! So much for copying Capablanca! |
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| Jun-19-06 |
| Xuorarch: Actually, clocked is wrong a about his 11...c6 variation. I think 12.Bxf6 gxf6 13.Kh2 looks alright because 13...cxd5 14.Rg1+ Kh8 15.Qh6 Rg8 16.Rxg8+ Qxg8 17.Rg1 Qxg1+ 18.Kxg1 Rg8+ 19.Kf1 Rg6 20.Qf8+ Rg8 21.Qxf7 dxc4 21.Qxf6+ Rg7 22.Qxf3 where White has a queen vs. a bishop and rook and can probably hold his extra pawn as well (most of the moves I gave I consider best for both sides, except for Black's move 13). If 13...Bh5(to block the g file), White might play, for example 14.Rg1+ Bg6 15.Ne3 Kh8 16.Rg2 Rg8 17.Rg1 leaves Black in a somewhat difficult position. Of course this is only an example, but it shows an attack that White can create here. |
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| Jul-11-07 |
| stefanoleccardi: Very nice Capablanca... the danger of the symmetrical position (and the advantage of being a time ahead !) |
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| Sep-18-07 |
| patzerboy: Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, but sometimes it's also suicide. |
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| Sep-18-07 |
| CapablancaFan: NN- "I'm going to play like Capa. I'm going to copy his play move for move and I should be alright. Right?...Should'nt I?... Maybe? " LOL! |
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| Nov-08-07 |
| xeroxmachine: NN is skrewd when he/she/it plais 9. ..Qd7 better was 9. ..Bxf3 |
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| Nov-08-07 |
| outsider: chessamateur> it is very simple. you start with qd8, and the black reply kd8. then rh8 ra1, rg8 rb1 rf8 check and white win a piece and then defend their own bishop on c1. or i don't understand your idea? |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| DukeAlba: Commandment 3: Thou Shalt Not Mirror Thy Opponent |
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