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Edgar Colle vs Jules Joseph Ghislain Delvaux
Ghent (1929), Ghent BEL
Colle System (D05)  ·  1-0
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Dec-16-03  PizzatheHut: This is the third game in Chernev's "Logical Chess: Move by Move". I was going over it just now, and after 12...h6 Chernev says: "Had he tried 12...Nxe4, the recapture by 13. Qxe4 threatens mate and compels 13...g6-and the pawns are disarranged!" Is it just me or does 12...Nxe4 seem like a better try? After 12...h6, the remaining moves are practically forced, which ends up poorly for black. If 12...Nxe4 13. Qxe4 g6 14. Qh4 h5, the black kingside is weak, but the variation looks much better for black than what actually happened.
Dec-16-03
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  Chessical: <Pizzathehut> your continuation is better for black than Delvaux's h6.
Jun-25-05  organist: This game also appears with light notes in Walker's "Chess: Attacking the King" pp 132-4.
Jul-24-05  LondonSystem: In addition, i remember seeing this game in 'The Ultimate Colle' by Gary Lane
Jul-23-06  Severn: Another interesting thing is that Chernev has blacks first move as 1...d5 and not 1...Nf6 which he shows as his second move after 2Nf3 Nf6 Are these slight differences in recorded games common in the older games?
Nov-25-06
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  Eyal: <PizzatheHut: After 12...h6, the remaining moves are practically forced> Not quite - instead of the suicidal 14...g6, black could have played 14...Re8. After 15.Qh7+ Kf8 16.Ne4 his position is of course extremely unpleasant, but I can't see any immediate forced win for white as in the game. Black's best continuation here might be the bizarre-looking 16...Ke7 (threatening Rh8) 17.Nxf6 Kxf6.
Nov-25-06  dehanne: Is Black Paul Delvaux, the famous painter/sculptor?
May-26-07  magilla: Chernev's book (Batsford's New Algebraic Edition) has the following move order:

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. e3 e6

as opposed to the present game:

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. e3 d5

I note the Chernev move order more closely tracks the traditional D05 Colle System move order

Mar-01-09  Waxmat: i too am playing over this game while reading chernev's 'logical chess'. as to the move order, i *believe* chernev purposely altered it to simplify his message (nf6 is harder to explain to a beginner, and this is only the 3rd game in the book, and he is trying to talk about how good central occupation is, and freeing lines for 2 pieces to develop with single pawn move etc). so i think he just altered the move order to serve his dialectic purpose. of course, i have nothing more to base this on than my instinct, but it seems to help follow the lesson he is advancing so far (through games 1 and 2).

Sep-04-09  Hem: Hem lines to deal with 3...Bf5
Jan-03-11  Zorts: Perhaps black should have moved 12...h6 one move sooner (to keep out the encroaching knight).
Jan-03-11
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  Sastre: The problem with 11...h6 is 12.Nxf6+ Bxf6 13.Qe4 Re8 14.Qxc6 .
Jan-03-11
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  perfidious: <Zorts> If your statement means that Delvaux should have played 11....h6, he can't, as 12.Nxf6+ Bxf6 13.Qe4 wins.
Jan-03-11  Zorts: Thanks Perfidious, Sastre; I wished I would've seen that. <Perfidious> I like your 'surpise moves' game collection.
Jun-18-12
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  GrahamClayton: 8...b5? was an error, due to the c6-Knight being undefended after White breaks in the centre with e4. ♕e4 with a double attack on c6 and h7 is a major tactical theme in this game.
May-15-13  pwkip: what about 15... Re8 instead of fxe6? It seems to me that white's best outcome is an exchange of knight with black's rook..
May-15-13
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  Phony Benoni: <pwkip> After <15...Re8>:


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Is your idea 16.Nxd8 Rxe4 17.Bxe4 Rxd8, and Black loses only the exchange? It doesn't work, because instead of taking the rook White will play 17.Nxb7 winning a full piece.

Aug-16-17  Zephyr10: Why is this game not in Chessbase's giant database?!
Nov-16-17  Brumalis: 15... Nxd4 looks interesting. After 16.Qxb7,Nxe6.
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