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Nikolay Tikhonovich Sorokin vs Yakov S Vilner
"Don't You Want Me Baby?" (game of the day Sep-20-2012)
USSR Championship (1929), Odessa URS
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  0-1


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  fish1800: 18-Be3! nice move I would have a difficult time seeing the OTB 19 .fe Qxe3ch 20. Kh1 Rad8! 21 Qc2 Rd2 22Qc3 Bg2ch! 23. Kxg2 Rxe2 ch 24 Kh1 Qf3ch 25.Qxf3 exf3 26.Rxe2 fxe2
Nov-29-08  Shams: <fish1800> your line leads to this position...

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...but after 27.♔g2 black is quite lost. not to mention that I don't see a win for black after 24.♖xe2 either.

I'm trying to make 20...♖f2 work. 21.♗f1 falls to ...♕h6 but 21.♖c3 looks strong (21...♕h6 22.♗c1 ). Interesting position-- where is the win? I feel like we're both missing something obvious. Let's combine ideas: your 20...♖ad8 21.♕c2 and my 21...♖f2:

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and I think white is lost; 22.♕c3 ♖d3 is curtains; 22.♗h5 ♗g2+ 23.♔g1 ♖e2#.

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  fish1800: Yes 21. Rf2 clearly wins. Good work! I doubt I would have seen all of that otb.
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  Phony Benoni: I'm rather surprised this one got selected, as I figured the "pun" would be too obscure to get a high rating. If you don't mind, I'll hold off on my explanation and see others come up with. It may be deeper than I thought.

However, I believe the game is a worthy GOTD.

Sep-20-12  DanielBryant: It's obviously a reference to "Don't You Want Me" by the Human League, and I see it as a reference to how the bishop was offered on three different squares before it was finally taken.
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  Phony Benoni: <DanielBryant> So much for suspense.
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  al wazir: 22. Rxe4 was a mistake. 22. Be4 would have been better. If 22...e3, then 23. Qe2.
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  Phony Benoni: <al wazir>

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22.Rxe4 is a blunder, but White's position sucks. 22.Bd4 is simply answered by 22...Rd3. I was going to advise 22.Rc2, but then 22...Qe3+!, forces mate.

If nothing else, Black is going to double rooks on the second rank and there is simply nothing White can do about it because of all the latent back rank mate threats.

Sep-20-12  newzild: I too thought 18...Be3 was a star move, but according to Rybka, 18...Rad8 was just as strong.

This is Rybka's main line after 18...Be3, yielding a +2.30 advantage for Black:

19. fxe3 Qxe3+
20. Kh1 Rad8

And now a "computer move" ...

21. Bg4 Rxd1
22. Rcxd1 Qh6
23. Bc1 g5
24. Bxg5 Qxg5
25. Bxh3 e3
26. bxc6 bxc6
27. Bxe6+

Material is roughly equal, but Black has strong moves including ...Rf2 at his disposal.

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  FSR: Don't You Want Me: Another version of video at
Sep-20-12  wildrookie: What is the pun about 'cos I don't get it?
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  FSR: <<wildrookie>

DanielBryant: It's obviously a reference to "Don't You Want Me" by the Human League, and I see it as a reference to how the bishop was offered on three different squares before it was finally taken.>

Sep-20-12  Abdel Irada: Maybe (from White's perspective) this line of the Slav is the "A Little <Too> Quiet Variation." Thematically, if Black plays an early ...♗f5, White pressures b7 with ♕b3 and tries to take the c-file (or force Black to play ...dxc4 to prevent it).

Here, I think Sorokin's unenterprising play gave Black far too many chances.

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  watwinc: 19 fxe3 Qxe3 ch 20 Kh1 Rad8 21 Qc2 Rd2 22 Qc3 Qf2 looks decisive
Sep-20-12  psmith: <watwinc> Read the previous comments.
Sep-20-12  mworld: always nice to see a creative title, good one!
Sep-20-12  vikram2791: 23.Qxc1 Rf1+ 24.Qxf1 Rxf1#! Sweet!
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  kevin86: Black chops off the rook and forces mate soonafter.
Sep-20-12  goodevans: 12.g3 was such an ugly move. I guess you know things aren't going so well when you can't find anything better than this.
Sep-20-12  JG27Pyth: Great pun in that one needs to view the game to understand it.

Don't you want me? -
You know I can't believe it
When I hear that you won't see me.
Don't you want me? -
You know I don't believe you
When you say that you don't need me.

Sep-20-12  Llawdogg: The Eighties are back today!
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