|Dec-20-03|| ||Dr Young: it took me 2 seconds to solve this one. Very easy indeed. |
|Dec-20-03|| ||unclewalter: uh oh...hope you're ready to get lambbasted... |
|Dec-20-03|| ||square dance: damn you beat me,it me 3 seconds to solve! |
|Dec-20-03|| ||rochade18: I want to see you solving this in a few seconds when there is no hint like "White to win at once". |
We immediatly look for the right sackrifice: I thougt at Bxf7 so it took me exactly 6.814 seconds to find the correct moves
|Dec-20-03|| ||DexterGordon: Dr Young must be a strong Master! Most impressive! |
|Dec-20-03|| ||Replic: Bxf7 is not a checkmate! Even if 19 ... Kxf7!
20. Qh7 Rf8
21. Qxg7 Ke8
The next check,Qg6, forces Kd7, otherwise its Rf7, Qxg8+, he sacrifices a knight.
|Dec-20-03|| ||patzer2: If 15...hxg5, then one possibility is 16. hxg5 Ne1 (other knight moves also give white an advatage) 17. Bh7+ Kh8 18. Bg8+ Kxg8 19. Qh7# |
|Dec-20-03|| ||kevin86: The bishop sac smokes out the black king,who is then forced back to his fox hole to die.You almost have to feel sorry for the little bugger! |
|Dec-20-03|| ||karnak64: I've been roughed up by the P-B attack, too, and usually when I've allowed an unhassled c5-bd3-qc2 series early on, as happens here.|
I'd like to ask folks where they think Black went irretrievably wrong here. That is, after which Black move would you place the question mark, and why?
Perhaps 14 ... h6 was the wrong (if natural) defensive step? Was 8 ... Ne4 was premature? 5 ... Be7 too passive? (One of you a while back encouraged me to try 5 ... Bb4, 6. Bd3 dxc4; I think this game shows maybe why).
|Dec-20-03|| ||hart: I prophesied the solution 2 seconds before I looked at the problem. |
|Dec-20-03|| ||Replic: Come now friends, in the end it matters IF you see it- not how long it takes you to see it!|
He who reads at 150 wpm is no more a literary expert then he who reads at 100 wpm.
|Dec-20-03|| ||actual: ha! I knew the whole game as soon as I saw the names, tournament, and date... |
|Dec-20-03|| ||talchess2003: <Dr Young: it took me 2 seconds to solve this one. Very easy indeed.> <Square Dance: damn you beat me,it me 3 seconds to solve!>
<Dexter Gordon: Dr Young must be a strong Master! Most impressive!> |
LOL... naivety can give people such great belly laughs. People who brag about seeing chess puzzles need to learn a little secret: it takes most of us 1-3 seconds to solve them, lol! They are nothing to feel proud of; all you have to do is just look for the sacrifice! It's a skill that anyone can develop: kind of like crossword puzzles. With a little experience people can learn how to do them in a matter of seconds. And those who cant arent bad chess players, just not as experienced at these puzzles.
What one should feel proud of is nagivating towards a tactical opportunity in a game and then including it in a web of variations. In short, seeing the tactical opportunity before it is forced, and without any flags.
So, to respond to Dexter Gordon's naive comment, Dr Young could be rated anywhere from 900-2851(Kasparov :P).
Also, looking at games of players such as Tal and Shirov is much more instructive to you tactically then these puzzles, they are more challenging, and teach you how to reach such positions where you have a winning move. I mean, how many times will one reach this position where he has the Bxg7+ possibility, a crowded king, an open rook file and a light bishop supporting it? If you can never get in good positions your tactical opportunities will be limited.
|Dec-20-03|| ||talchess2003: <I'd like to ask folks where they think Black went irretrievably wrong here. That is, after which Black move would you place the question mark, and why?>|
White simply outplayed black. Also, black played a little too passively. He never gained any initiative. after c5 more usual is b6, b4, a5 where black then opens up the queenside to play on. Black just let white roll on in.
Look on the position on move 13 after black plays 13... Nf6. Black has no play, no attacking plan, he is simply on the defense with no material compensation. He has no play in the center, his queenside is limited, and so he is bound to get run over.
Critical was 12... Ba6 to trade off light bishops or occupy that diagonal. Here black allows white the classical Bxh7+ opportunity, which he has to defend against, starting after h4. This is recurrent in the French Defense.
|Dec-20-03|| ||Chessical: It was complacent of Lutz to allow his opponent two bishops bearing down on his K-side supported by the N. The attack is very similar to that often seen in the Colle system.
12...Ba6 13.Ng5 Bxd3 14.Qxd3 g6 would have headed him towards equality. |
|Dec-20-03|| ||MoonlitKnight: All I have to say is: Well spoken, talchess! |
|Dec-20-03|| ||Dick Brain: It took me a couple minutes at least. I was looking for ways to get Queen sacrifices (which is what I come to suspect first in quizzes) involved before I looked for the Bxg7+. |
|Dec-21-03|| ||Dr Young: although i don't have any rating i would say i'm about 1900 fide elo. i always search for sacs when solving these puzzles and this time i hit the bullseye right away. You can call it lucky. I'm almost zero when it comes to openings or endgame strategy. I have my own sick systems which i follow always. |
|Dec-21-03|| ||euripides: If 12...Ba6, 13Bxh7+ immediately looks promising. Possibly 8...Ne4 just leaves the King too exposed. |
|Dec-21-03|| ||patzer2: <karnak64/talchess2003> <I'd like to ask folks where they think Black went irretrievably wrong here. That is, after which Black move would you place the question mark, and why?>
Talchess provides some good suggestions. However, I think it is more often better to look for a series of inferior (or less than best) moves leading up to a lost position -- as opposed to finding the "one bad (irritrievably wrong) move." With that in mind, allow me to recommend the following improvements for black:|
6...Bb4 is a move most stronger players prefer as in Sveshnikov vs V Malakhov, 2003 and Karpov vs Psakhis, 2002 (notice the transposition to the Nimzo Indian). It seems to give Black more piece activity and better counterplay. The ChessGames.Com opening explorer seems to confirm this assessment, showing black wins 26.1% (31.9% white wins) with 6...Bb4 as opposed to only 16.3% (41.6% white wins) with 6...Be7.
7...dxc4 is I believe a better move as demonstrated in Ljubojevic vs Smyslov, 1973 Note that it avoids the grip White gets on the black position with 8. c5, impedes the White Bishop from immediately developing to d3, and leaves white with an isolated king pawn to defend in the endgame.
9...f5 as in S Eche vs MS Lupu, 2001 is definitely better than 9...Nxc3. Notice how Black refutes White's 10. Nb5 followup by winning the Bishop and Knight for the Rook with an overwhelming attack.
<Talchess> Your ideas of 8...b6 and 12...Ba6 are definitely better than Black's continuation in this game. However, the decisive win achieved against this strategy in
Vachier Lagrave,M vs Josef Janovsky, 2001 seems to indicate that it doesn't solve all of Black's positional problems, as the potential passed pawn on c5 is awful strong in the endgame. Better to avoid this I think with Smyslov's earlier idea of 7...dxc4!, or failing that to play 8...Ne4 9. Bd3 f4! Still with the idea of looking for the "last bad move," your suggestions are excellent and thought provoking ideas -- offering black much better counterplay than the game continuation. If your play is as strong as your analysis, I would think you are doing quite well on the scholastic chess circuit.