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Henry Thomas Buckle vs NN
London (1840)
Sicilian Defense: Modern Variations (B50)  ·  1-0
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Sep-14-03  euripides: 8...Qa5+ is quite interesting. E.g. 9 Bd2 Bxd1 10 Bxa5 Nxd5 11 Nxf7 Kxf7 12 Bxd5+ Ke8 13 Kxd1 and White is 2 pawns up, or 11...Nxc2+ 12 Kxd1 Nxa1 13 Bxd5 and White will come out on top. Even in 1840 it should have been obvious what White was up to with 8 Nxe5 - no wonder Black's name didn't get recorded.
Sep-14-03  mrvertigo: what was black's mistake? His third move makes me uneasy, Even if he didn't get gunned down like he did, the move seems weak.
Sep-14-03
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  Sargon: Seems like if Black played 8...dxe5, he might have been able to salvage a game after 9.Qxg4 Nc2+ or some such.
Sep-14-03  sarayu: 9. Kc7+ seems to accomplish the same thing.
Sep-15-03
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  crafty: 9. ♘c7+ ♕xc7 10. ♗xf7+ ♔d8 11. ♖xd1 dxe5 12. c3 h6   (eval -9.35; depth 13 ply; 100M nodes)
Feb-21-06  DeepBlade: Ive noticed, a lot of opening traps with early ♕ sacs have one thing in common. Bg4, semi-pinning the Knight. Is Bg4 really that weak? My nephew starts the game immediatly by exchanging his ♗ for my ♘, which indicates Black is playing for a win, isnt it? He values his ♘'s above ♗'s.
Mar-18-06  McCool: Should have kept going with the symmetrical game.
Nov-26-06  Lopt: Quite good? Very!!
Dec-16-06  Rubenus: <Sargon> Exactly what I thought when I analysed the Mate of Legal. The queen sac is unsound, is what I concluded. Can anyone help us?
Dec-16-06
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  Sneaky: Sargon's idea as stated fails

8...dxe5 9.Qxg4 Nxc2+ 10.Kd2 (or Kd1, just as good)


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Black can't take the rook because Bb5+ wins the Black queen.

Maybe there's something to 8...dxe5 9.Qxg4 Qa5+ but I doubt it. I think this queen sac is every bit as sound as Legal's mate.

Dec-16-06  FHBradley: Is this the modern way to play the Sicilian, or why is it called "modern"?
Dec-16-06  FHBradley: Second question: why did they play so many Sicilians in the 1840s?
Feb-16-09
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  TheTamale: A real de-buckle for NN.
Jul-20-10  cuppajoe: <FH Bradley>

First question: no, this is the antiquated way to play the Sicilian (from Black's perspective anyway). I suspect that chessgames calls this "Modern Variations" because that's the label it stamps on everything that deviates from theory after 3.Nc3 (which is a slightly unusual move in modern play, but it usually transposes to more traditional open Sicilian lines).

Second question: the Sicilian was quite popular for much of the 19th century, according to Wiki. It had the endorsement of Howard Staunton and appeared in 21 out of the 90(!) games in the La Bourdonnais - McDonnell matches.

Aug-15-11  naruto00122: 8.Nxe5 is not the best move (but it is a REALLY good trap)

8.Nxd4 is best (details below)

Analysis by Houdini:
8.Nxd4 Bxd1 9.Bb5+ Qd7 10.Bxd7+ Kxd7 11.Bxe7 Bxe7 12.Nf5 Bxc2 13.Kd2 Bxd3 14.Kxd3 Bf8 (wins a minor piece)


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Nov-11-12  mucher1: 6.Ng5 can't be bad either.
Feb-08-13  RPdigital: This is Legal trap with extra move 7Nd5 and different order. Good that Buckle figured it out and finished
Nov-24-13  psmith: <naruto00122> Just to add that best play after 8. Nxe5 is simply 8... dxe5 9. Qg4 Qd7 10. Qxd7+ Kxd7 with White just a pawn up (Rybka).
Oct-11-15  zambranoknight: weak playes playing
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