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Lindemann vs Echtermeyer
Kiel 1893  ·  Scandinavian Defense: Mieses-Kotroc Variation (B01)  ·  0-1


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Feb-12-07   Tactic101: e4,d5,exd5,Qxd5,Ke2!! (Suicidal Game)
Fischer: Best by test.... (just kidding!)
May-19-07   gBizzle: Lindemann will go down with players such as Kasparov and Fischer as some of the best ever to sit down at a chess board
May-19-07
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  whiteshark: Here is the original source from <Kongressbuch des DSB, Kiel 1893>:

<Um mit einem Scherz zu schließen, bringen wir die nachstehende kurze Partie: Lindemann – Echtermeyer, Eröffnung Damenbauer gegen Königsbauer 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Dxd5 Weiss wollte nun 3.Sc3 spielen, ergriff aber in der Hitze des Gefechts den Lc1 und pflanzte ihn nach c3; zur Strafe musste er also einen Königszug machen (und es blieb nur….) 3. Ke2, worauf Schwarz mit 3. ... De4 matt setzte.>

Früher musste ein Spieler mit dem König einen Strafzug machen, wenn er eine Figur berührte, die nicht ziehen konnte.

Jul-25-07   dovif: I love the KINGS GAMBIT
Oct-29-07   Udit Narayan: This is undoubtedly the best game ever!!!!!
Feb-18-08   D.Observer: Epauletted in three!
Mar-07-08   you vs yourself: Yes it is
Mar-07-08
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  Phony Benoni: Perhaps White was in time pressure.
Apr-29-08
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  FSR: They must have been playing with a rule like this one, cited in Staunton's ''The Chess-Player's Handbook'' (1847), p. 37: "If a player make a false move, i.e. play a Piece or Pawn to any square to which it cannot legally be moved, his adversary has the choice of three penalties; viz., 1st, of compelling him to let the Piece or Pawn remain on the square to which he played it; 2nd, to move correctly to another square; 3rd, to replace the Piece or Pawn and move his King."
Jun-16-08   danielguo999444: <wolfking: How many questions marks to 3.Ke2 ? ^^>I know this might be a late answer,but:an infinite number.
Sep-25-08   Katu: 3. Ke2 was a very powerful gambit... after a strong GM named Echtermeyer found a quick refutation to it.

LOL.

Sep-25-08
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  sleepyirv: <Phony Benoni: Perhaps White was in time pressure.> That's classic
Oct-03-08   Hawks: I think this game is bogus.
Dec-21-08   WhiteRook48: The real King's Gambit.
Dec-23-08   WhiteRook48: Scandinavian Defense: King's Gambit Accepted (F02)
Jan-20-09   thebribri8: What genius decided to name this variation?
Feb-12-09
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  whiteshark: C.N. on Penalty moves:
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... --> scroll down to 5381

The crosstable of the tournament book, stated that the players were from Kiel and Oldesloe respectively.

Feb-17-09   Chessmen: White is mad
Mar-08-09   chessman95: I think he forget to take his medicine.
May-06-09
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  blacksburg: hehehe scandinavian is teh best hehehehe
Aug-04-09   WhiteRook48: Mieses-Kotroc Variation hahaha was that 3 Ke2???
Oct-06-09   antharis: Here is the original source from <Kongressbuch des DSB, Kiel 1893>: <Um mit einem Scherz zu schließen, bringen wir die nachstehende kurze Partie: Lindemann – Echtermeyer, Eröffnung Damenbauer gegen Königsbauer 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Dxd5 Weiss wollte nun 3.Sc3 spielen, ergriff aber in der Hitze des Gefechts den Lc1 und pflanzte ihn nach c3; zur Strafe musste er also einen Königszug machen (und es blieb nur….) 3. Ke2, worauf Schwarz mit 3. ... De4 matt setzte.>

In English something like:

<To end up with a joke, we look at this very short game: Lindemann vs. Echtermeyer, opening queens pawn versus kings pawn 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5. Now white wanted to play 3. Nc3 but touched accidentally the bishop c1 and set it to c3. As penalty he had to move the king (and there was only...) 3. Ke2, after which black plays 3... Qe4 mate.>

So white wasnt mad nor stupid or somethng like that. He just touched a wrong piece and due to the penalty he had to move the king. Sad but true. I love the story behind this game! ^^

Oct-10-09   Cercatore: No sense game...
Oct-19-09   dannygjk: Hmmm, Misiere chess anyone?
Oct-20-09
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  TheaN: The opening name... 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 is the regular Scandanavian, right? Sooooo, the Mieses-Kotroc Variation is 3.Ke2????????? Who the hell would like his name related to such a move :)? Or it is the variation that involves 2.exd5 or 2....Qxd5? As opposed to 2.e5 or 2....Nf6? That would make more sense.
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