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Frank Melville Teed vs Eugene Delmar
New York 1896  ·  Dutch Defense: Hopton Attack (A80)  ·  1-0
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Jun-09-09
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  FSR: <chessman95> Back in 1896 theory wasn't too well developed. Believe it or not, Delmar was one of the strongest players in the U.S. at the time. Someone surprised me tonight in an Internet blitz game with 5...e5!? I didn't respond too well, though I did manage to win on time eventually. It now occurs to me that 6.exf4! exf4 7.Bxf4! is correct, since if 7...gxf4, 8.Qh5+ Ke7 9.Qe5+ wins.
May-17-10  Formula7: 7.Qxh5+ Rxh5 8.Bg6#
May-17-10  weary willy: On the other hand, if Delmar manages to survive the first 130 or so moves, he can defeat a great like Chigorin Chigorin vs E Delmar, 1889
May-17-10
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  lost in space: 7. Qxh5+ Rxh5 (foreced) 8. Lg6#
May-17-10  VincentL: "Very easy".

This game has hardly started.

I can see more than one way to win, but I am sure the game line is the spectacular 7. Qxh5 Rxh5 8. Bg6 mate.

Or 7..... Rg6 8. Qxg6 mate/Bxg6 mate

May-17-10
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  dzechiel: White to move (7?). Material even (no captures). "Very Easy."

How embarrassing for Delmar! White winds this one up quickly with

7 Qxh5+

and after the rook moves (to capture or block), white administers mate with

8 Bg6#

Didn't black's mother tell him it's important to control the center of the board?

May-17-10
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  wordfunph: 7.Qxh5+ Rxh5 8.Bg6 checkmate!
May-17-10  TheBish: F M Teed vs E Delmar, 1896

White to play (7.?) "Very Easy"

Hooray for Monday! (Never said that before, and probably never will again!)

Queen sacs start early this week:

7. Qxh5+! Rxh5 8. Bg6#.

May-17-10
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  M.Hassan: 7.Qxh5+ Rxh5 the only move preventing checkmate
8.Bg6# Indeed very easy by queen sacrifice
May-17-10  syracrophy: The worst thing of having missed the principle of controlling the center is that he also disobey another basic lesson of the opening: watch out with the e8-h5 diagonal - the lethal diagonal!
May-17-10
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  YouRang: Well, the unblockable open diagonal against the black king with a queen and bishop ready to jump on it was a bit of a giveaway.

7.Qxh5+ Rxh4 8.Bg6#

BTW, ...Rh6 was a questionable move.

May-17-10  zb2cr: Lots of comments, since this has been used before. So, I will just say: 7. Qxh5, Rxh5; 8. Bg6#.
May-17-10  snarky: I won a game with this combo on Yahoo once -- true story.
May-17-10
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  Once: First, a big thank you to everyone's kind words on Saturday. My Mum has had a frankly awful year in considerable pain and worry. But this weekend was a huge relief for all of us. No-one lives forever, but it is good to have a little longer!

Back to the game, and I can't help thinking about about the latest trend in fine cooking - something cooked in three different ways and served on the same plate. Today we have a trio of f7 mates.

We start with a queen mate, poached in a white wine sauce. After 4. ...f4, black thinks he is trapping and winning the Bg3, but then comes e3.


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The threat is now a piquant Qh5#. So black plays 5...h5 to prevent that move.

6. Bd3. Now the threat is a bishop mate with Bg6#, lightly grilled with a green salad on the side. At this point, black could and should give his king some room with a pawn move (say 6...d6). But he plays the disastrous 6...Rh6 instead - a stinking cheeseburger of a move.


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The problem with this move is that the rook has two jobs to do - it has to defend against Bg6# and Qg5#. And as so often in chess, pieces struggle to do two jobs at once. White now finishes off with a deep fried queen sacrifice served on a bed of Bg6 with a drizzle of f7 jus:

7. Qxh5+ Rxh5 (Rg5 is for those who like their sauce on the side, but it is the same dish) 8. Bg6# (or Bxg6#).

If you play the dutch, you absolutely have to know this trap. With f5 comes a great responsibility - to prevent a disaster on the h5-e8 diagonal.

Bon appetit.

May-17-10  A Karpov Fan: got it. but why would anyone play like this ?
May-17-10  TheaN: Monday 17 May 2010

<7.?>

Target: 0:40;000
Takan: 0:06;382

Material: no captures

Candidates: Bg6†, <[Qxh5†]>

-ML-
Overextension is a curse. In this game, Black was confronted with the consequences. White plays a variation of the Bird fools mate due to enormous and ridiculous overextension by Black:

<7.Qxh5† Rxh5 8.Bg6‡ 1-0> ends the game as early as move 8. I tried to deduct how Black got into this but I missed a White move in that sequence. Time to check.

May-17-10  gofer: What a horrible opening by black, while trying to win Bg3 (and failing) he loses the game!

7 Qxh5+ Rxh5
8 Bg6#

May-17-10  Summerfruit: The diagonal e8-h5 is wide open:

7.Qxh5+ Rxh5/Rg6 8.Bg6#/Bxg6#

May-17-10  mrbasso: Believe it or not: 6.Bd3? is a mistake.
6...d6!
May-17-10  AnalyzeThis: If you're going to play the Dutch defense, the first thing you find out is that you can't trap the bishop on g3. White obviously knew this (otherise he would have chosen from alternatives to putting the bishop on g3). The real question is why black didn't know this.
May-17-10
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  tarek1: it's mate in 2 :
<7.Qxh5+ Rxh5 8.Bg6#> Black can't avoid the check on g6, 6...Bg7 was necessary, Bg6+ Kf8. The shortest game in the database ?
May-17-10  xmachine: 7.Qxh5!, and then mate can't be stopped (Rxh5, Bg6#)
May-17-10  stacase: Variation on what I always called "Fool's mate"
May-17-10  SamAtoms1980: My gosh.

Delmar must have thrown back too much of the Old No. 7, because Qxh5+!! put him away on Move No. 7.

May-17-10  gus inn: Has happened on several occasions.And a fine illustration of "how not to develope the pawns & pieces".
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