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Fred Wren vs W E Mayfield
Halifax 1941  ·  Alekhine Defense: Two Pawn Attack (B02)  ·  1-0
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Sep-14-04  sandyobrien: of course not 7. ... fxe6, because: 8.Qh5+ g6 9.Bxg6 hxg6 10.Qxg6++
Sep-14-04
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  chessgames.com: Just so nobody else wastes any time trying to solve an impossible problem, we'll reset the puzzle of the day to start at move 8.

Easy, yes, but after all it is only Tuesday. We apologize for the oversight.

Sep-14-04  greystar69: Hey, "chessgames" is human, just like the rest of us. I believe this particular theme to steal the queen in this way is called a "Magnus-Smith Trap". Anyone know anything more about the origins of that?
Sep-14-04  clocked: <crafty> should consider more human play, such as, 9.Qc2 (9...g6 10.Nf3 g6 11.0-0)
Sep-14-04  pogo5: <chessgames.com> I have difficulties to accept your apologies. This is not by far the first time a puzzle is cooked. Why do you not check the soundness of the puzzles with your preferred software? and the GM next door if any? ;-)
Sep-14-04  Marvol: <notsodeepthought> Unblemished by victories...? As yet, there is one winning game for Mayfield and a losing (this one). His winning game is a joke, though :-/.
Sep-14-04  ThomYorke: I think even solving easy puzzles we always learn something good!
Sep-14-04  Larsker: The puzzles on cg.com are a daily source of joy and relaxation in my life. I can certainly live with a small error once in a while.
Sep-14-04  sanferrera: Of course 8...Kd7 9. Bf5 (double check) also looses the queen.
Sep-14-04  notsodeepthought: <Marvol> You are right, but as I recall there was only his sterling loss to Wren in the database at the time I made that post. Of course, that changed after Mayfield ran into Trinks (I commented on that on the Trinks page), assuming it's the same Mayfield by the way...
Sep-14-04  Chesspatch: saw the move in t-5 min. yay. but what first struck me as interesting was how the pawn managed to reached e6. alekhine isn't too bad, i played that opening before... but not recommended in blitz
Sep-14-04
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  kevin86: I am of another opinion:So long as these problems have flaws,the solver then has the "joy of cooking".

The sad part on this theme for black is that the bishop check prevents the king from returning home by Ke8-to protect his queen.

Kudos to another Mayfield,Jeremy-who made the final ten in the NASCAR chase.

Sep-14-04
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  notyetagm: Nice, got both variations:

i) 8 exf7+ Kxf7 9 Bg6+ winning the queen
ii)8 exf7+ Kd7 9 Bf5++ Kc6 Qxd8 winning the queen

Note the picturesque variation 7 e6! f7xe6?? 8 Qh5+ g6 9 Qxg6+! h7xg6 10 Bxg6#, which partially explains why Black played 7 ... Nf6? in response to 7 e6!.

Sep-14-04  artemis: <pogo5> Chessgames.com is running an excellent site. Do you stop reading News Papers because of typeos? Think about everything they have to do: find a puzzle for every day, linking it to a theme, finding an opening of the day, game of the day (with a mediocre pun involved, althogh yesterday's Kengis Kan was very good), update their files with new games, respond to requests, and find time to make comments on the web page reffering to different puzzles or comments, plus other things that I am probably overlooking. They have a lot of things to do, so the occasional error is acceptable, and reminds us that even chessgames.com is human.

The Bg6 move is similar to several traps when an opponent places the queen on f6/f3. The Bishop can be placed on g4/g5, controlling d8/d1 and setting up a checkmate. Great way to get a quick win against amateurs.

Sep-14-04  Knight13: This problem is too easy.
Sep-14-04  Giancarlo: A little 2 easy today. Black can try going to e7 but it obviously leads to mate with the discovered check.
Sep-14-04  pogo5: <artemis> I used to agree with you that chessgames.com is an excellent site. But it has now become a paying site for full access - with a very expensive fee, mind you - and I am furious about it!
Sep-14-04  iron maiden: <pogo5> The database, the kibitzing features, the tactical puzzles and the live games aren't costing you a penny and never have. Premium membership fees are why the site is running.

<kevin86> My congratulations to Mayfield (the race car driver) as well, and kudos to my man Mark Martin as well. Good luck to both of them in their run for the championship.

Sep-14-04  misguidedaggression: I don't think $22 is that expensive, It's a lot cheaper than a USCF membership, Which you need to have in this country if you ever want to play in a tournament, or some chess clubs. I don't have any problems with the site as a non-paying member; and -- if i still have internet access at this time next month -- I'm sure I'll like it even more as a paying member.
Sep-14-04
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  kevin86: <iron maiden> A few things:you are right in saying that the memberships improve the site---by adding features,live games,and enlarging the database itself. Both members and non members benefit from this. Without the memberships-the site would stagnate and die after a while.

Mark Martin would probably be my next choice after Jeremy Mayfield-neither have won ,both are good for racing,and neither seems to get in trouble.

Oct-24-06
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  ahmadov: With this game, it becomes clear that Mayfield could win only Trinks
Jan-30-07  Hawks: Why can't the black King move to e6?
Jan-31-07  Karpova: <Hawks: Why can't the black King move to e6?> He can but black still loses the Queen
Apr-12-07
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  whiteshark: <2... Ne4> Waarschijnlijk de beste voortzetting.
Apr-09-09  WhiteRook48: quite easy
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