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Johannes Zukertort vs Adolf Anderssen
Berlin - (1865)  ·  Spanish Game: Cozio Defense. General (C60)  ·  1-0
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Jan-10-07  Marco65: <Fisheremon> 9...Ke8 10.Qh5 Qf6 11.f4 exd4 12.f5 dxc3 13.bxc3! Nce5 I though 14.fxg6 attacking the queen was enough, but only now I see the complications after 14...Bg4! 15.Qxg4[15.Rxf6 Bxh5 16.Bf7+ Nxf7 17.gxf7 Bxf7 ] 15...Qxf1+ 16.Kxf1 Nxg4 17.Bf7+ Kd8 18.Bf4. The evaluation is unclear to me, White has two pieces for a rook but worse pawn structure.

All very interesting, I wish I had an engine to check these variations.

Anderssen must have had his brain disconnected that day, but I guess Zukertort saw this and much more...

Jan-10-07  Fisheremon: <Marco65: <Fisheremon> 9...Ke8 10.Qh5 Qf6 11.f4 exd4 12.f5 dxc3 13.bxc3! Nce5 I though 14.fxg6 attacking the queen was enough, but only now I see the complications after 14...Bg4! 15.Qxg4[15.Rxf6 Bxh5 16.Bf7+ Nxf7 17.gxf7 Bxf7 ] 15...Qxf1+ 16.Kxf1 Nxg4 17.Bf7+ Kd8 18.Bf4. The evaluation is unclear to me, White has two pieces for a rook but worse pawn structure.> The best on 17th should be 17.Be6, since 17.Bf7+ Kd7. Also you might confuse: Black won the exchange (you might forget Bishop f8 ?!).
Jan-10-07  Marco65: <Fisheremon> I prefer (after 9...Ke8 10.Qh5 Qf6 11.f4 exd4 12.f5 dxc3 13.bxc3?! Nce5 14.fxg6 Bg4 15.Qxg4 Qxf1+ 16.Kxf1 Nxg4) 17.Bf7+ Kd7 (you're right, better than Kd8) 18.Bf4 to exchange the knight if it goes to the strong e5 outpost. Rather than 17.Be6 Ne5 18.Bf5 when the bishop looks like a tall pawn.

Useless discussion anyway, because you're right: <Black won the exchange>! After 9 moves made in my mind I'm getting to my (poor) limits

13.bxc3 deserves a ?! at this point.

Jan-10-07  Fisheremon: <Marco65: After 9 moves made in my mind I'm getting to my (poor) limits> Have my admiration to your memory anyway ! <13.bxc3 deserves a ?! at this point.> I'm intending to mark 8.Nxf7?! Ke7? and 10...Qe8?? for that our discussion !
Jan-10-07  Marco65: <Fisheremon> Like me, it seems you like such analyses more than solving the puzzle itself!

I would mark 8.Nxf7? because while our lines were complex 9...d5 10.Bxd5+ Ke7 11.Qh4 Be8 still seems a good and simple refutation of the sacrifice to me

Jan-10-07  Fisheremon: <Marco65: <Fisheremon> Like me, it seems you like such analyses more than solving the puzzle itself!> Yeah, actually I like a non-standard solution of the problem, then I try to enter so far to the game itself. Thanks anyway and let's have a see with other games !
Jan-10-07  JYMMI: I saw Bg5+ hxg Qxg5
Jan-11-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  dakgootje: Noted needs to be it's in the database aswell as Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865
Mar-17-07  venk98: awesome! i hav the same game in my chessmaster 10th edition....i always like zukertort's play..they 're full of sacrifices n sharp tactics!
May-20-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  suenteus po 147: This game is the "correct" version according to Tartakower and Du Mont, in that it was played, once, in Breslau. The final moves, though, are 11.Bg5+ hxg5 12.Qxg5#
Sep-07-07  Dilbertarian: Crafty sees 8.Nxf7? as weak, because of Kxf7. 9.Bc4+, Ke8! 10. Qh5, Qf6. 11. f4, exd4. 12. f5, dxc3. 13. Qxg6 (fxg6 ? cxb2!) Qxg6. 14. fxg6, cxb2 and Black is better off.

So the gem is basically flawed!

Nov-01-07  Cibator: Purists would argue that you shouldn't sac more material than is strictly necessary - hence (11)Bg5+ is "more correct" than (11)Qg5+. But having the chance, who wouldn't give up the Q instead?!
Aug-28-08  dwavechess: very true cibator. Zukertort concur with rybka 2.3.2 at 14 ply in 9/11
Aug-28-08  Zonszein: Zukertot was not inferior to Steinitz. Unless it was just psychlogically

I think

Sep-10-08  dwavechess: For Rybka 3 w32 6/11 at 3 minutes per move, Rybka doesn't sees the possibilities of the knight or Anderssen had a better defense.
May-09-09  tommy boy: GOTD please
Mar-19-10  Antiochus: Chessgames.com

The same thing happened in this duplicate game Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865

Aug-13-10  Antiochus: This famous game Steinitz vs G Neumann, 1870 is repeated here
Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865 . Two twins in the notable area.
May-24-11  Llawdogg: Wow! Holy Cow!
Jun-11-11  Antiochus: Best version of the same game Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865
Jun-21-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF ZUKERTORT.
Your score: 18 (par = 17)

LTJ

Aug-15-12  Bezlitosci: Impressive that a player like Anderssen could make a blunder like 10...♕e8, allowing mate in two
Sep-17-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: 7...h6? - 7...♗e7 is much better, forcing the White knight to retreat.
May-27-14  naresb: After 9. Bc4 another alternative:--
(A)

9... Ke8
10. Qh5; Qf6

(B)
9...Ke8
10. Qf3; Qf6

Whether these alternatives hold good?

Dec-04-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Ke2: <naresb> Definitely A. Follow up with 11. f4 and White has a strong attack, although comp says -.3
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