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F Kraus vs Victor Costin
Schweizerische Schachzeitung 1913  ·  Benoni Defense: Benoni Gambit Accepted (A43)  ·  1-0
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May-22-12
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  whiteshark: <8.Bb5!>, and that's it.
May-22-12
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  Moonwalker: Thank you for the clarification <FSR> and <Infohunter>

Thanks for the link <The HeavenSmile>, never heard of the "grand fork" before.. It's alright I guess :-)

May-22-12  dragon player: This is a famous pattern:

8.Bb5 Qxb5
9.Nc7+ Kd8
10.Nxb5

and white has won the queen for a piece.

Time to check.

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Black gets slowly into trouble after 2...Qa5+. I think 2...e6 would have been stronger.

2/2

May-22-12
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  Once: <FSR: So White was F. Kraus, and presumably the game was played in 1913 (or possibly earlier).>

... and it was a correspondence game rather than being played in Munich.

I don't suppose that Victor is with us any more, but the database has not been kind to him. All we have are four (five?) of his correspondence games. In each case he plays black and in each cases he loses.

His most humiliating loss is this one. It really does take some skill and dedication to lose in eight moves in a correspondence game. So stunning in fact, that this game is given twice in the database.

And all that for a man named Victor.

May-22-12
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  dzechiel: White to move (8?). Material even. "Easy."

Seen this theme plenty of times in the past. White picks up the queen with

8 Bb5

as after

8...Qxb5 9 Nc7+ Kd8 10 Nxb5

Quick and easy.

May-22-12  YetAnotherAmateur: I had a hard time keeping a straight face after this one, because 8. Bb5 is curtains for black: No more queen, not much by way of counterplay, not much by way of piece development, just a mess.

Black needed to extricate himself with 6. ... Qa5+ and is still in trouble after 7. Bd2 Qa4 8. Bd3 or 7. Bd2 Qd8 (probably the safest)

May-22-12
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  kevin86: Back up the position and it would have been a harder and better puzzle:

The pin is to be followed by a fork

8 Bb5 Qxb5 9 Nc7+ Kmoves 10 Nxb5

May-22-12  BlackSheep: This puzzle needs no introduction .
May-22-12
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  FSR: <Once: ... I don't suppose that Victor is with us any more, but the database has not been kind to him. All we have are four (five?) of his correspondence games. In each case he plays black and in each cases he loses.

...

And all that for a man named Victor.>

If only he'd encountered a man named Elvis - namely Elvis Zivkovic - he might have had a chance.

May-22-12  Eduardo Leon: I also play <1...c5> in reply to <1.d4> (especially in blitz games), but I reply <2.dxc5> with <2...Na6>, where the only way for white to keep the extra pawn is <3.Qd4 e6 4.b4>. And, at this point, I play <4...Nf6>, preparing <5...b6!>. :)
May-22-12
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  Once: <FSR> True, but then Elvis did collect all of his duck eggs in a single tournament. Victor earns some style points for collecting them over several years.
May-22-12  gars: This took me some time to find the solution.
May-22-12
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  FSR: Another fun miniature (well, not for Black) arising from 1.d4 c5 is Yermolinsky vs E Tate, 2001.
May-22-12  bachbeet: Why do people keep asking for a harder puzzle? This is supposed to be easy.
May-22-12  BOSTER: What is very important to understand studing this <POTD> that don't move your queen into the game too early.

Because she will be the target for attack by the opponent's pieces.

Here the black queen is trapped by 8.Bb5-pin and after ...Qxb5 9.Nc7+ fork and queeen lost.

What is interesting that if black played 6....Nd7 (instead Ne7), saving the queen against the pin (Qc6-Ke8) see diagram


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even here the queen would be trapped by 7.b4 Qc6 and now 8.Bb5!


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May-22-12  Dionysius1: Maybe I'm starting to grow up, but this doen't strike me as partic clever of white. It's amusing as it plays out, but any sensible move by black with his LSB on move 6 would have rendered the whole pattern redundant wouldn't it?
May-22-12
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  Patriot: I would say 8.Bb5 Resigns. 8...Qxb5 9.Nc7+ and 10.Nxb5.
May-22-12
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  DarthStapler: Way too easy... I kept looking for some further twist to it
May-22-12  1stboard: The mistake of moving your queen early in the game .........
May-22-12  VincentL: 'Easy'.

8. Bb5 and now if 8.....Qxb5 9. Nc7+ followed by Nxb5 leaving white with Q for B.

If black does not play Qxb5 then after 9. Bxc6 Nxc6 white has the same material gain.

May-22-12  stst: Black's Q & K are lined up for a fork! And c7 is just good for White's N. Too bad, White simply needs to take advantage of this: 8.Bb5 QxB
9.Nc7+ and White has the choice of taking the Q or R (of course take the Q!!)
May-22-12  stst: <Nb5! and the queen is lost.>

Also too easy for a typo!!

<< should be Bb5, not Nb5 >>

May-23-12
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  Nightsurfer: There is a famous role model with regard to the matrix <Bb5!-Qxb5-Nxc7+>, namely the game P Damiano vs NN, 1497 - way back in history at Rome 1497.
Jun-13-12
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  David2009: Here's the position after move 6 (White to play and win):


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with a link to Crafty End Game Trainer:
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... Your challenge is to win playing Crafty EGT on its own terms (i.e. finding the win without castling).

It took me several attempts: it is very instructive to find how Crafty mixes prudence and aggression to fight back Q for N down.

For an easier challenge, try winning allowing castling. Visit David2009 chessforum which shows a position six moves on in which White (to move and with his K on h1) completes 12.0-0 by the move Kh1-g1

Sep-01-12
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  The Last Straw: Here's another similar "queen fork" game: R Ashley vs R Morton, 1980
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