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Rolf Schwarz vs Labau
Germany (1948)
French Defense: Winawer. Fingerslip Variation Kunin Double Gambit (C15)  ·  1-0
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Aug-20-07  andrews: As soon as I saw that the queen was being attacked and had to move, it was obvious that 10.Qxc6+ was checkmate in 2.
Aug-20-07  zb2cr: Saw the possible Rd8 mate a la Reti v. Tarakover immediately, but the Black Knight on c6 prevents the mate. A ha! Queen sacrifice clears away the Knight.

<hominoid>, I disagree with you that Black was aware of this mate. Had he been aware of it, he would have not taken the Queen for his 10th move, thus permitting mate. He would have either resigned or played 10. ... Bd7. Granted, the latter would only have subjected him to a mate in 3 by 11. Qxd7+, Kf8; 12. Qd8+, Rxd8; 13. Rxd8#. However, in my opinion, it's still better to resign when you see that mate is inevitable. Playing it out makes you look like a complete beginner.

Aug-20-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Peligroso Patzer: <leonorasmith: Great game! Please let me suggest:

10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. Rd8#
or : 10. Bb5 e6 11.Rd8#
or : 9. ... Ne7 10. Qxb4 Qg6 11. Qxe7#
Thank you for looking.>

If 10. Ne5, not 10. … Ne5?? but 10. ... Qxg5+

And if 10. Bb5, Black can play on with an inferior but playable game after 10. ... 0–0 11.Bxc6 Bxc3 12.Qxg6 hxg6 13.Be7 Bf6 14.Bxf8 Kxf8 15.Be4

Aug-20-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Peligroso Patzer: <As soon as I saw that the queen was being attacked and had to move, it was obvious that 10.Qxc6+ was checkmate in 2.>

Although it only serves to prolong Black's agony, the "best defense" after 10. ♕xc6+ actually holds out a few more moves: 10...♗d7 11.♕xd7+ ♔f8 12.♕d8+ ♖xd8 13.♖xd8#

Aug-20-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: I solved this one backwards:I saw the possibility of a mate at d8-if only the knight were removed. Obviously,the queen could do the job in post haste. Therefore: 10 ♕xc6+ bxc6 11 ♖d8#.

Reti-or not-here I come!!

Aug-20-07  TopaLove: Isn´t Schwarz the guy who developed the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality?
Aug-20-07  pggarner: <Fuitz: nice...that will have taught him to never play french again :)>

The French Winawer is sound, it's just that Black's 4...dxe4 was bad. I think Black would have been OK after either 4...c5, 5.Qg4 Ne7, 6.Qxg7 Rg8, 6.Qh6 cxd4 or 4...Nf6, 5.e5 Nfd7, 6.Qg4 g6

Aug-20-07  Crowaholic: Schwarz plays Weiß - that makes no sense. :-)

http://www.dict.cc/?s=schwarz-weiß

Nice demonstration of how not to play the French defense and nice easy start for the week. Black could at least have played 10. ..Bd7 but probably a quick end is preferrable here. Even if White misses the 12. Qd8+ mate after 11. Qxd7+ Kf8, Black is simply two pieces down for nothing.

<TopaLove: Isn´t Schwarz the guy who developed the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality?>

That was Hermann Amandus Schwarz who lived 1843-1921.

Aug-20-07  KokeFischer: Why did Black play 8. ... Nh6 and not 8. ... Nge7?

He was well aware about mate in d8!
Did he forget the threat?

Aug-20-07  Crowaholic: <Peligroso Patzer: If 10. Ne5, not 10. … Ne5?? but 10. ... Qxg5+>

Yes... don't expect your opponent to do you favors like 10. Ne5 Nxe5??

Aug-20-07  ex0duz: Got this one almost instantly, as it reminded me of one of my favourite Morphys finishes.. Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, 1858

Sac queen on knight to clear mating square for rook which is in turn supported by bishop. Pretty uncanny similarity. Now why cant i ever reach these positions if its so common.. :(

Aug-20-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: For today's easy puzzle, White removes the guard with 10. Qxc6+! to allow 11. Rd8#.
Aug-20-07  ellhares: i dont like the idea of the varitey in difficultey why ( chess games) dosent present a hard puzzle every day why should it be onley one strong buzzle every week?!!
Aug-20-07  zanshin: <ellhares: why ( chess games) dosent present a hard puzzle every day why should it be onley one strong buzzle every week?!!>

So that patzers like me can get some of the puzzles! If they were all Sunday-level difficulty, I would stop trying to solve them.

Aug-20-07  Aware: <ellhares: i dont like the idea of the varitey in difficultey why ( chess games) dosent present a hard puzzle every day why should it be onley one strong buzzle every week?> Easy, first of all there are a wide variety of chess players on this site ranging from novice to GM. Secondly, Fri, Sat, and Sunday are usually challenging.
Aug-20-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <ellhares> So, the puzzle was too easy for you? Okay, try this one.

In the position below, it is black's turn to move. No matter what black does, white has a forced mate. Show the best move for the black, followed by the forced win for white.


click for larger view

After you're done with that puzzle, feel free to complain about the "too easy" ones.

Cheers :-)

Aug-20-07  willyfly: <ellhares: i dont like the idea of the varitey in difficultey why ( chess games) dosent present a hard puzzle every day why should it be onley one strong buzzle every week?>

Amen bro(s)! <zanshin> and <Aware> - for most of my life I didn't play much chess because it was too hard to find an opponent who was good enough to make it challenging and bad enough that I could still win sometimes - I needed to find my level so I could improve - we need variety - this is chess school

Aug-20-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <willyfly: for most of my life I didn't play much chess because it was too hard to find an opponent who was good enough to make it challenging and bad enough that I could still win sometimes>

Hey, that's what rated tournaments are for. After about 25 games you'll figure out whom to play...

Aug-20-07  willyfly: <MostlyAverageJoe> yes - that's what attracted me to chess on the internet - the ability to be matched up with opponents of the same approximate strength - I have played CC type games at three websites for the past two years - my rating varies from 1400 at one to 1800 at another - after about 300 games my win rate is about 65% - in the early 80s I played in a couple of USCF tourneys in an effort to find out how good I am but didn't continue because I didn't do very well and because they were not so convienient - I am still NOT a good OTB player - I play for the mental excercise and the pleasure of it - striving to improve
Aug-20-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Some call me Tim: <a q maclanahan: i believe that 7....Nc6 which seems to try to prevent the opera box theme is actually Black's mistake. better is 7...Bc3 and if 8.Bg5 Bb2+ 9.Kb1 exf3 10. Bf6 Bf6 11. Qf3 when Black has 3 minor pieces and two pawns for the Queen>

If 7...Bxc3 simply 8.Bxc3 wins material and keeps up srong pressure against B's position.

Aug-20-07  apple pi: I always thought there was some irony in Schwarz playing with the white pieces...
Aug-20-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  norami: <MostlyAverageJoe> In your puzzle above, Black's best move is 1. . . Rd7+ although White can still win the rook in 517 moves starting with 2.Kc3.
Aug-20-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <norami> Hey, this was supposed to be a puzzle for <ellhares>!

But I guess he still can work on the remaining moves.

Cheers :-)

Aug-22-07  leonorasmith: Sorry, i wrote it wrong; it seems to me that the right thing might be: 10. Bb5 a6 11. Rd8#
Aug-22-07  Crowaholic: <MostlyAverageJoe: So, the puzzle was too easy for you? Okay, try this one.>

MAJ, I analysed the first 50 moves into the game and found that White has no way to force checkmate or capturing of a piece. Hence Black can claim a draw under the 50 move rule and get the 1/2 point. ;-)

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