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|Dec-13-06|| ||Trouble: took a second but solved it...|
|Dec-13-06|| ||DHW: It's funny how I always seem to look at the wrong moves first before I find the right one despute the fact its completely forcing! Great puzzle!|
|Dec-13-06|| ||Dobbs: THis was an easy chessercise.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||melv: I found 10.Bxf6+. I think this wins the queen also.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||YouRang: <Knight13><But I saw 9. Rd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6 Qxa4. (Just becareful)>|
Hmmm. 10...Qxa4 not legal (10. Bxf6+)
<melv: I found 10.Bxf6+. I think this wins the queen also.>
Yes, but 10...Qxa4 11. Qe2 Bxe2 12. Bxe2
And white is ahead, but the margin isn't overwhelming (Q for a R+B). Black can keep playing.
|Dec-13-06|| ||vibes43: I am surprised that no one else reports seeing 9.Qxe4 Nxe4 10.Re1 f5 11.f3 and white wins a Knight. It's not as good as the text but that was my solution. After seeing the text solution I realize my mistake but if I happened upon this scenario in a game situation I probably would have traded Queens to win a Knight if that's what I saw first. If I looked at previous moves first I would have realized that Bronstein didn't just happen upon this scenario.
Anyway, thanks CG for another good puzzle.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||2021: <Kinght 13> 9.Rd8+ Kxd8 10.Qxe4 is easier.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||esticles: <vibes43> 9. Qxe4 is not winning a knight, because white gave up his knight on e4 to get to the puzzle position. So the variation with 9. Qxe4 is just a trade--probably the line that the unfortunate NN was expecting when he took the knight.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||BishopofBlunder: Oddly enough, though I am a patzer, I think I might find this tactic OTB. Unfortunately, being a patzer, I would not have played myself into this position.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||BishopofBlunder: <egilarne: Does it count to have seen the position before, and therefore be able to see the solution instantly?>|
Yes, it counts. An important part of becoming a good chess player is pattern recognition. The "I have seen this before, I know what works". This will often win over brute force calculation.
|Dec-13-06|| ||vibes43: <esticles: <vibes43> 9. Qxe4 is not winning a knight, because white gave up his knight on e4 to get to the puzzle position. So the variation with 9. Qxe4 is just a trade--probably the line that the unfortunate NN was expecting when he took the knight.> But I didn't know this when I looked at the puzzle. Previewing play prior to the puzzle position would have provided the hint I needed to look deeper. For all I knew, Bronstein may have been happy to get back in the game. I try to solve without the hint and, from the puzzle position, I found a gaining move.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||chesstoplay: Hi BishopofBlunder,
Did you get a chance to go to UTD at all to see the chess match at the bank?
|Dec-13-06|| ||psmith: Well, I got this quickly, but probably did see it sometime in the distant past, having read 200 Open Games way back when.|
But if we back up a couple of moves, note that Black should get an advantage after 7... Bb4+ 8. c3 Qd4! (This is an interesting position which I have analyzed for a while with Fritz 5.32. It seems at least somewhat better for Black.)
|Dec-13-06|| ||diemjay: <I went down a slightly different route: 9. Rxd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6+ gxf6 11. Qxe4 same outcome.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||BishopofBlunder: <chesstoplay: Hi BishopofBlunder,|
Did you get a chance to go to UTD at all to see the chess match at the bank? >
Unfortunately, no. Too bad, as it looked like a good tournament. I did watch some of the games live online at http://www.monroi.com . Some sharp play.
Maybe next year...
|Mar-23-07|| ||mattzap: This must surely be THE definitive game to show anyone the weaknessed of "pinned knights" !?|
|Jul-19-08|| ||just a kid: I remember in chess club my teacher showed me the position after 7...Qe7.I was the only one to fine 0-0-0! Qxe4 9.Rd8+! Kxd8 10.Qxe4.|
|Jan-02-09|| ||WhiteRook48: This is an NN game|
|Jan-18-09|| ||WhiteRook48: gee, NN's play is reaaally awful.|
|Feb-15-09|| ||WhiteRook48: <Knight 13: But I saw 9. Rd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6 Qxa4>
10. Bxf6+ is check, so Black does not have time to take the white queen on a4|
|Feb-26-09|| ||WhiteRook48: nice deflection tactic! I've got it memorized!
(although there are not much chances of this coming up for a kid)
|Jun-12-09|| ||Benzol: I'm not sure if 9...♔xd8 10.♕xe4 actually transpired. Bronstein in 200 Open Games gives 9.R-Q8+ Black Resigns.|
|Jun-21-10|| ||Whitehat1963: Love the finish to this classic in the Opening of the Day.|
|Mar-03-15|| ||profK: Was eine cutie !!!!|
|Dec-17-16|| ||clement41: Nice little decoy, zwichenchach & pin|
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