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| Dec-13-06 | | marcwordsmith: What a nice little minature game. So often the minatures are unsatisfying. This one was lovely. |
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Dec-13-06
 | | egilarne: Does it count to have seen the position before, and therefore be able to see the solution instantly? |
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| Dec-13-06 | | Trouble: took a second but solved it... |
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| Dec-13-06 | | DHW: It's funny how I always seem to look at the wrong moves first before I find the right one despute the fact its completely forcing! Great puzzle! |
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| Dec-13-06 | | Dobbs: THis was an easy chessercise. |
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| Dec-13-06 | | melv: I found 10.Bxf6+. I think this wins the queen also. |
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Dec-13-06
 | | YouRang: <Knight13><But I saw 9. Rd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6 Qxa4. (Just becareful)> Hmmm. 10...Qxa4 not legal (10. Bxf6+)
<melv: I found 10.Bxf6+. I think this wins the queen also.> Yes, but 10...Qxa4 11. Qe2 Bxe2 12. Bxe2
And white is ahead, but the margin isn't overwhelming (Q for a R+B). Black can keep playing. |
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| Dec-13-06 | | vibes43: I am surprised that no one else reports seeing 9.Qxe4 Nxe4 10.Re1 f5 11.f3 and white wins a Knight. It's not as good as the text but that was my solution. After seeing the text solution I realize my mistake but if I happened upon this scenario in a game situation I probably would have traded Queens to win a Knight if that's what I saw first. If I looked at previous moves first I would have realized that Bronstein didn't just happen upon this scenario.
Anyway, thanks CG for another good puzzle. |
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| Dec-13-06 | | 2021: <Kinght 13> 9.Rd8+ Kxd8 10.Qxe4 is easier. |
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| Dec-13-06 | | esticles: <vibes43> 9. Qxe4 is not winning a knight, because white gave up his knight on e4 to get to the puzzle position. So the variation with 9. Qxe4 is just a trade--probably the line that the unfortunate NN was expecting when he took the knight. |
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Dec-13-06
 | | BishopofBlunder: Oddly enough, though I am a patzer, I think I might find this tactic OTB. Unfortunately, being a patzer, I would not have played myself into this position. |
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Dec-13-06
| | BishopofBlunder: <egilarne: Does it count to have seen the position before, and therefore be able to see the solution instantly?> Yes, it counts. An important part of becoming a good chess player is pattern recognition. The "I have seen this before, I know what works". This will often win over brute force calculation. |
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| Dec-13-06 | | vibes43: <esticles: <vibes43> 9. Qxe4 is not winning a knight, because white gave up his knight on e4 to get to the puzzle position. So the variation with 9. Qxe4 is just a trade--probably the line that the unfortunate NN was expecting when he took the knight.> But I didn't know this when I looked at the puzzle. Previewing play prior to the puzzle position would have provided the hint I needed to look deeper. For all I knew, Bronstein may have been happy to get back in the game. I try to solve without the hint and, from the puzzle position, I found a gaining move. |
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Dec-13-06
 | | chesstoplay: Hi BishopofBlunder,
Did you get a chance to go to UTD at all to see the chess match at the bank? |
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| Dec-13-06 | | psmith: Well, I got this quickly, but probably did see it sometime in the distant past, having read 200 Open Games way back when. But if we back up a couple of moves, note that Black should get an advantage after 7... Bb4+ 8. c3 Qd4! (This is an interesting position which I have analyzed for a while with Fritz 5.32. It seems at least somewhat better for Black.) |
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| Dec-13-06 | | diemjay: <I went down a slightly different route: 9. Rxd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6+ gxf6 11. Qxe4 same outcome. greensfield>
Likewise.
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Dec-14-06
| | BishopofBlunder: <chesstoplay: Hi BishopofBlunder, Did you get a chance to go to UTD at all to see the chess match at the bank? > Unfortunately, no. Too bad, as it looked like a good tournament. I did watch some of the games live online at http://www.monroi.com . Some sharp play. Maybe next year... |
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| Mar-23-07 | | mattzap: This must surely be THE definitive game to show anyone the weaknessed of "pinned knights" !? |
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| Jul-19-08 | | just a kid: I remember in chess club my teacher showed me the position after 7...Qe7.I was the only one to fine 0-0-0! Qxe4 9.Rd8+! Kxd8 10.Qxe4. |
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| Jan-02-09 | | WhiteRook48: This is an NN game |
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| Jan-18-09 | | WhiteRook48: gee, NN's play is reaaally awful. |
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| Feb-15-09 | | WhiteRook48: <Knight 13: But I saw 9. Rd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6 Qxa4>
10. Bxf6+ is check, so Black does not have time to take the white queen on a4 |
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| Feb-26-09 | | WhiteRook48: nice deflection tactic! I've got it memorized!
(although there are not much chances of this coming up for a kid) |
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Jun-12-09
 | | Benzol: I'm not sure if 9... xd8 10. xe4 actually transpired. Bronstein in 200 Open Games gives 9.R-Q8+ Black Resigns. |
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| Jun-21-10 | | Whitehat1963: Love the finish to this classic in the Opening of the Day. |
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