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|Dec-13-06|| ||kevin86: A neat variation of the Reti-Tartakower mate. There is even a knight sac on the same square e4. The twist is that instead of a queen sac and mate-we have the capture of a hanging queen. White exploits the pin of the knight at c6 to enter forcefully with the rook-in order to exploit a second pin of a second knight at f6. Either way the king moves,the knight is pinned and her majesty falls.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||pggarner: <<Actually got it for once. Stupid question, but NN is only actually Rook and Knight for Queen down when he resigned, or am I missing something obvious about to happen to White ?>
Well, positionally white is much, much better. Black has an exposed king and huge problems castling. It's a straightforward win, methinks.>|
Maybe Black was just being gracious. Down here at the class level, where I am, players don't like to resign since we all make so many mistakes. I have no doubt that if I were able to play this in a tournament game, my opponent would fight to the bitter end, and I'd have to be very careful not to blow it.
|Dec-13-06|| ||hkannan2000: I thought Paul Keres has played a similar game|
|Dec-13-06|| ||al wazir: <Eggman: The Center Game is not also known as the Scandinavian. You're thinking of the Center Counter>|
Right you are. "Is not this something more than fantasy?"
|Dec-13-06|| ||sfm: In all its simplicity this is one of the small things that just shows real class. Many of us can in split seconds find the combination starting with 9.Rd8+ - because we know that there is something, otherwise CG wouldn't have put it up. If we didn't know, we might still find it, but maybe we wouldn't - hard to know. But Bronstein found it before playing 8.0-0-0, otherwise that move would be a losing blunder. And, most of all - in a position that appears to be rather undramatic and every-day like, and where all moves made so far make good sense. In addition, the combination is unusual. I can't remember any other combi, where white (so early) plays Rd8+ to profit from the pin of Nf6.
Hate to admit it, but I'd just not have seen 8.0-0-0 in a tournament game.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||Stonewaller2: Poor NN can take some consolation from being walloped yet again from the fact the position he got himself into looks neat in Forsythe notation. Both players have|
on their second ranks; Black's third rank is:
and in the middle of the board we have:
33 (second q is actually Black tho)
|Dec-13-06|| ||Billosky: Yikes, how could I miss something as simple and elegant as this? Well, at least I only looked for a minute or so since I'm busy at work today. I must try to remember to look for such nice situations, where one catches a bigger fish by saccing a smaller one to create a winning pin!!|
|Dec-13-06|| ||halloween: 30 seconds!!
I feel like a genius.
(Until I remember that I didn't solve yesterday's and Monday's puzzle...)
|Dec-13-06|| ||poptart: good one, kinda easy, or maybe thats just because this game is familiar to me|
|Dec-13-06|| ||sataranj: what i got was 9.Rd8+ Kxd8 10.Bxf6 gxf6 11.Qxe4|
|Dec-13-06|| ||benveniste: I got this immediately, but I saw it before in "200 open games."|
|Dec-13-06|| ||Knight13: <what i got was 9.Rd8+ Kxd8 10.Bxf6 gxf6 11.Qxe4> But I saw 9. Rd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6 Qxa4. (Just becareful)|
|Dec-13-06|| ||Stellar King: nice attack but too easy since all the weaknesses point to the black queen like a flamboyant neon light.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||marcwordsmith: What a nice little minature game. So often the minatures are unsatisfying. This one was lovely.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||egilarne: Does it count to have seen the position before, and therefore be able to see the solution instantly?|
|Dec-13-06|| ||Trouble: took a second but solved it...|
|Dec-13-06|| ||DHW: It's funny how I always seem to look at the wrong moves first before I find the right one despute the fact its completely forcing! Great puzzle!|
|Dec-13-06|| ||Dobbs: THis was an easy chessercise.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||melv: I found 10.Bxf6+. I think this wins the queen also.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||YouRang: <Knight13><But I saw 9. Rd8+ Kxd8 10. Bxf6 Qxa4. (Just becareful)>|
Hmmm. 10...Qxa4 not legal (10. Bxf6+)
<melv: I found 10.Bxf6+. I think this wins the queen also.>
Yes, but 10...Qxa4 11. Qe2 Bxe2 12. Bxe2
And white is ahead, but the margin isn't overwhelming (Q for a R+B). Black can keep playing.
|Dec-13-06|| ||vibes43: I am surprised that no one else reports seeing 9.Qxe4 Nxe4 10.Re1 f5 11.f3 and white wins a Knight. It's not as good as the text but that was my solution. After seeing the text solution I realize my mistake but if I happened upon this scenario in a game situation I probably would have traded Queens to win a Knight if that's what I saw first. If I looked at previous moves first I would have realized that Bronstein didn't just happen upon this scenario.
Anyway, thanks CG for another good puzzle.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||2021: <Kinght 13> 9.Rd8+ Kxd8 10.Qxe4 is easier.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||esticles: <vibes43> 9. Qxe4 is not winning a knight, because white gave up his knight on e4 to get to the puzzle position. So the variation with 9. Qxe4 is just a trade--probably the line that the unfortunate NN was expecting when he took the knight.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||BishopofBlunder: Oddly enough, though I am a patzer, I think I might find this tactic OTB. Unfortunately, being a patzer, I would not have played myself into this position.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||BishopofBlunder: <egilarne: Does it count to have seen the position before, and therefore be able to see the solution instantly?>|
Yes, it counts. An important part of becoming a good chess player is pattern recognition. The "I have seen this before, I know what works". This will often win over brute force calculation.
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