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Daniel Fidlow vs Albert Maier
USA corr (1959), New York
Tarrasch Defense: Schara Gambit (D32)  ·  1-0


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  InspiredByMorphy: What harm is there in taking the pawn w/ 6.Kxf7 ? If black is patient and defensive, there should be no problem winning in the endgame.
Mar-19-04  Hitch: What a lovely game. I think you'll find that if black plays 6.Kxf7 then white's queen takes black's queen on d8. I couldn't see it at first, either. :-)
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  InspiredByMorphy: Yes. I felt pretty silly as I left the computer, went to lunch, and as I started eating I realized it. I was thinking "I hope nobody sees that " lol. But since you did Hitch, Ill leave it and chuckle at my microscope mind comment from the outside looking in :)
Mar-19-04  Dillinger: LOL to this whole game. And correspondence too.. black looks more like he's playing bullet chess.
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  beenthere240: I suppose 8....K e8 keeps the game going. I don't see how the white knight can get out. It's not a pretty position for black.
Apr-06-04  caballos2: See also Korody vs Bologh, 1933, for the same motive.
Apr-06-04  Vischer: just like that variation in the albin countergambit.
Dec-12-04  buscher07: Well, that was a nice quick game.
Dec-12-04  DanielBryant: It reminds me of a trick for Black that I believe can be found in the Albin Countergambit.
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  tpstar: <DanielBryant> Korody vs Bologh, 1933
Dec-13-04  maddy: it seems in both game there is no need for pawn promotion
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: Pawn promotion to a knight, with check, is necessary in both games. The opposing knight has to be captured to prevent it from interposing after the bishop check; the pawn has to be promoted with check because otherwise the other side exchanges queens and escapes the danger.
Apr-08-06  Autoreparaturwerkbau: 7.fxg8=N+! is one of the earliest underpromotions to knight i know. And it is totally winning too.
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  GrahamClayton: <Autoreparaturwerkbau>7.fxg8=N+! is one of the earliest underpromotions to knight i know. And it is totally winning too.

Here is another Knight underpromotion on the 7th move: Wiede vs A Goetz, 1880

Oct-10-09  WhiteRook48: 7...Ke8 8 Qxd8+ Kxd8 9 bxc3. Reasons to keep playing? None
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  hesyrett: Even more convincing is 7...Ke8 8 Qxd8+ Kxd8 9 Bg5+ Kc7 (or 9...Kd7 10 O-O-O+ and White rescues his N on g8) 10 Rc1, leaving White with better development and two extra Pawns.     BTW, I can't play this line against my el cheapo chess computer, since it doesn't support underpromotion!
May-08-12  Everett: So, basically, 5..Nxc3?? is a blunder... something more normal like 5..Bxe6 looks fine for black.
Jul-04-12  SamAtoms1980: 6.exf7+ Ke7 7.fxg8=N+ and wins everything. A Reverse Lasker Trap! I have a couple of opening trap books, so surprised I've never seen this before.
Jul-04-12  goldfarbdj: Took me a minute to get this, then I remembered it was underpromotion week. As noted above, it's very reminscent of the trap white can fall into if he tries to play an Albin Counter Gambit as though it were a Falkbeer: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 d4 4. e3 Bb4+ 5. Bd2 dxe3 6. Bxb4 exf2+ 7. Ke2 fxg1N+
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  Marmot PFL: Black might have overlooked the under promotion, but at least he didn't have to spend much on postage.
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  al wazir: I dunno about this one. After 7...Ke8 black is down a piece and a ♙, but that piece isn't going anywhere.
Jul-04-12  Patriot: 6.exf7+

6...Ke7 7.Qxd8+ Kxd8 8.fxg8=Q

6...Kxf7 7.Qxd8 Bb4 8.Qc7+

Jul-04-12  Patriot: 7.fxg8=N+ -- Very nice!
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  FSR: I've seen this game before. It's a mirror image of the Lasker Trap in the Albin Counter-Gambit. White plays 6.exf7+ Ke7▢ (6...Kxf7 7.Qxd8) 7.fxg8(N)+! (7.fxg8(Q)? Qxd1+ 8.Kxd1 Rxg8) Ke8▢ (7...Rxg8?? 8.Bg5+) 8.Qb3 with a winning position for White - who is up a piece, albeit a strangely placed one.
Jul-04-12  King Death: <al wazir: I dunno about this one. After 7...Ke8 black is down a piece and a (pawn), but that piece isn't going anywhere.>

There are probably other moves but after 7...Ke8 White can play the simple 8.Qd8+ Kd8 9.Bg5+ Ke8 10.bc when he has 2 extra pawns.

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