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| al wazir: And if 12. Bd3 then 12...f5. Now if 13. exf6 then 13...Nxf6 14. Bxf6 Rxf6 15. Qh7+ Kf8 16. Qh8+ Ke7 17. Qxg7+ Kd6 or Rf7. |
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| misguidedaggression: Now, after 10.Nxf7, the position looks resignable. |
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| KholdStare: If 10...hxg5 11.Bxg5 Ne7
How is this bad for Black? |
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| misguidedaggression: I put the position into my computer, it recommended 10.Nxf7. After the blunder 10.Qg6? Black is winning by (-2.53)! |
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| BillyDjango: I don't see why white would have gone with Qg6 instead of Nxf7 unless there is a very fancy and obnoxious mate. It might just be that since all of blacks pieces get bottled up, white has a slow but forced mate with h4 and Qh5 and maybe Bd3, but I don't exactly see it. |
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| BillyDjango: Maybe... after 11. h4 Ne7 or 11...hxg 12. Bg5 Ne7 Than 13. Qh5 g6 14. Qh6 Ng7 15. Rxh4 followed by mate. or 14... Nf5 15. Qxg6+ N8g7 16. Bf6 followed by mate. I'm not sure if all the variations are fool proof because I am just doing it in my head but it looks all right. |
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| mravikiran: I think Asprea got Psyched out by the position. I dont see any definite win immediately - the only thing that may have prompted resignation is poor position and possible loss of material (good enough to resign), but it was worth to try next 4 or 5 moves. |
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| misguidedaggression: After 11.h4 d5! lets black loose. For example:
12.exd6ep Qxd6
12.Qh5 g4
12.Bxd5 Qxd5 13.Qh5 Qe4+ 14.Be3 Qg6
...d5 is <the> freeing move in the Giocco/Evans/2Knights! Always watch for it when calculating variations. <Even if it seems to lose material!> |
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| misguidedaggression: This is busted! White loses! Don't resign too early kids! |
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| ice lemon tea: is there any genius out there who can explain to me how 10.Qg6 makes white win? i'm pretty sure that 10.Nxf7 will put white in a better position. |
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| Autoreparaturwerkbau: I join to the great majority group here, which is highly doubtful about the soundness of black's resigning. Can anyone give the line of white's win + result of computer's search? |
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| tpstar: This is the same piece configuration as a game posted by <mymt> on 1/23/06 in The Kibitzer's Cafe. The correct winning line starts after 9 ... h6 = 10. Bxf7+ Kh8 11. Qg6! wins = 11 ... hxg5 12. Qh5#; 11 ... Rxf7 12. Qh7#. Technically Black can survive one more move with 11 ... Nf6 12. exf6, or else a spite check (11 ... Ba5+). I suspect a missing move pair here = 10. Bxf7+ Kh8 11. Qg6 1-0. Otherwise Black resigned after an unsound combination. Wouldn't be the first time. =) Kids, don't play 6 ... Bb6?! or else you'll get steamrolled to death. 6 ... Bb4+ is correct. |
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| dakgootje: <Kids, don't play 6 ... Bb6?! or else you'll get steamrolled to death. 6 ... Bb4+ is correct.> Yes indeed I have an exempleof a pawn roller with this opening, give me a sec to find it... Post scriptum: Could this be the shortest Game of the Day? pps: Ow and dont ask for an explenation why white is better or the you think 10.  xf7 is better, because if you just look in the post above you, you can see it has been posted several times before -.- |
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| dakgootje: Though in the Database there isnt a game before 1940 of Isaac Boleslavsky it has been noted here as 1933 so ill just use 1933: Boleslavsky - Scitov
Moscow, 1933, Giuoco Piano (C54) 1-0
1. e4 e5 2. f3 c6 3.  c4 c5 4. c3 f6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4 b6? 
click for larger view
<correct was 6. ...b4> 7. e5! g4 8. h3! h6 9. d5! e7 10. d6! g6 11. g5 f6 
click for larger view12. exf6 gxf6 13.  e2  f8 14. xh6#
Of course 13. ...f8 wasnt black best move, but black was lost in every variation. |
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| sfm: Did Black resign in a won position?
Or are moves 10.Bxf7+,Kh8 missing as suggested?
I believe in the second theory! |
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| kevin86: What looked like an easy,cute little minature----suddenly has major holes in it. Black seems rather snug after 10...hxg5 11 xg5 e7 or did I miss something? |
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| chessic eric: just to clear it up, it seems after 9...h6 the game must have continued:
10.Bxf7+,Kh8
11.Qg6!
and that the database game is missing the actual 10th moves of white and black. Otherwise resigning a won game is inexplicable for a player of black's strength. |
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| misguidedaggression: <tpstar> slightly more accurate (according to CM7000) is 10.Nxf7. In both lines black can give up the queen to prevent mate. The mate here is 10.Nxf7 Qe7? 11.Nxh6++ Kh7 12.Nf7+ Kg8 13.Qh8# |
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| Jan-25-06 |
| alefromitaly: "Viva l'Italia" anyway!! |
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| Jan-25-06 |
| twitter: the pun reminded me of this:
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/26...
worth a few minutes if you're in the mood for a laugh, you'll get why i though of it when you watch ^^ |
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| Prugno: Not only is the game score probably wrong, the name of the White player is 99% wrong. Pazienza ;-) Carlo D'Amore (a very strong IM and psychiatrist by profession) was 6 years old in 1970 and, as far as I know, he took up the game at a slightly later age.
White might instead be Emanuele D'Amore, a candidate master who was aged 16 in 1970. He still plays chess occasionally, so if I meet him at some event I'll try to ask him! |
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| killjoy: Ha! What an absolutely horrible mistake by Aprea to resign so early. Such horrible play is characteristic of a man trying to remember GP opening variations so long in years forgot. It is also factually reported in Chessgames that Aprea's eyes started to upwell in a lacromosal tribute betwixt moves 7 and 9, <see link below<>>, so I must therefore conclude that this premature resignation, most assuredly was due to a flashflooding of memories from Aprea's horrible childhood, which, as I recall was mostly spent on the receiving end of a decade's worth of GP mates (GP record = 2-3-45...1927-1937). I also recall reading in the Chessgames article <htttp://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1250901>, that at move 10, he tried to avoid social scandal by promptly throwing his king out the window. He then stormed off, holding his toupee over his face, apparently bursting into tears when reaching the little boys room. "Where is Aprea?" we asked. "Aprea's Toupee-e is in the Lavatree to-pea," came the horrible reply from a snickering Polgar sister. This was a horrible incident, just horrible. Ha! |
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| itz2000: Lets say you've done all the possible mistakes till 7 (as black), why would you go for a 7 O-O which is a clearly suicide!!! 7..Rf8!
8 e5, Ne4?
9 Nxh7 Rh8
so all 7,8,9 would be a mistake for white since he would lose a Knight...
I tryed to keep sticked to this game, so I think 7. Rf8 should be better answer, but it's almost certain death for black/ good plan for black would be if white : d5
.. Nb4
and try to get a diagonal-attack with Ba5 followed by Nc1++ If any player can comment on my newbie thinking I would be happy.
Thanks. |
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| Mendrys: I concur that the game score must be wrong as black is winning after 10. Qg6 hxg5. I don't think that 7. O-O is really that bad for black. The losing move for black is 8....Ne8??. After this there is no defence to 9. Qh5! According to Crafty 8....d5! holds the position for black and he may even be better. |
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| sciacca khan: Amen, Ale! I think Abrea lost by running out of time. Viva Italia! |
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