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G Perks vs B Moraja
Dayton Ohio 1983  ·  Caro-Kann Defense: Standard. Unorthodox Replies (B15)  ·  0-1
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Kibitzer's Corner
Jul-05-12
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  FSR: Not sure why this atrocity is in the database. White plays weakly, then blunders into mate in one.
Jul-05-12
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  Phony Benoni: <FSR> In cases like this, scanning back through the immediately earlier <gid>s will often show a game to be part of a series. Here the earlier games are invariably very short and are generally played in Ohio. My guess would be that somebody submitted games published in Bill Wall's collections of miniatures.

Another example are gids 1075xxx-1080xxx, which are almost all King's Gambits. These probably came from a preassembled database that emphasized completeness over quality.

Jul-05-12
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  Shams: <Phony Benoni> Are all librarians such good system thinkers?

What about flagging games for removal-- have the admins ever addressed the idea, to your knowledge? From a quality control perspective, it's arguably at least as important as adding new games. I've stopped using the <365chess> opening explorer-- tired of clicking all the way to the end of the line to find I'm walking in a Class E player's footsteps. Anyway, I'm stating the obvious-- it's self-evident that games like this shouldn't be here.

What I'd love to see is the following:

1.) Put a "flag for removal" link on every game page-- when you click it, you are directed to a further page where you can select the checkbox option that expresses why you want the game gone, e.g. <"Game is complete hackery">

2.) Once 2 or 3 people have nominated a game for removal, a prominent graphic will appear on that game page, which states "this game has been flagged for yadda yadda" and allows users to vote. If sufficient users vote a game down, it goes away.

There is potential for misuse, which may explain why my idea hasn't been adopted. For example, if a bunch of posters were really cheesed off at one other poster, they could in theory team up and vote his games right off the site. But, I don't think that would ever on chessgames.

Jul-05-12
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  Phony Benoni: <Shams> There is a mechanism already in place to submit games for deletion. Correction slips contain the option <"The quality of this game is very poor"> and a space for describing the problem.

It should be an important process in in a database like this which is intended to be limited to a certain number of high-quality games, but I don't know how often the process is initiated or what the evaluation process is for flagged games.

But surely deletion decisions can not be left to a majority vote of the membership. The chances of abuse, persecution, and "Deletion Wars" would simply be too great.

Personally, I try to consider that this site already contains more games to enjoy than I could possibly look at in half-a-dozen lifetimes. Why waste the one I do have getting upset about the clunkers?

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