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A Dzurny vs S Saul
"Dzurny's End in Lovers Meeting" (game of the day Jun-14-2010)
New York (1989), New York, NY USA
Caro-Kann Defense: Karpov Variation (B17)  ·  1-0


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  Phony Benoni: I can hardly wait to see Rybka's analysis of this one.
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  dzechiel: This is a good example of a game that does not belong in this database.

Both players appear to be non-notables and the play is truly less than inspired. It was played in New York in 1989, but so were a zillion other poorly played games.

So, what credentials does this game have to appear in this database? Anyone?

Jun-14-10  Astardis: Brings back painful memories... I was at the bottom end of this mate more than once! Just didn't expect a mate in 7 from the calm Caro-Kann after making perfectly normal moves :)
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  Peligroso Patzer: <dzechiel: ***

So, what credentials does this game have to appear in this database? Anyone?>

It demonstrates a trap that should be well-known, but apparently was unknown to S. Saul.

A propos the pun, every wise man's son doth know not to play 6. ... g6 in this line.

Jun-14-10  JonathanJ: i won so many games with this trap... yawn...
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: I don't know--a pun this inspired ought to justify the inclusion of a game like this in the database.
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  Once: It's the chess equivalent of "It's a wonderful life" (if you are American) or "The Great Escape" (if you are British).

Yes, we old-timers have seen it a gazillion times before. It's a very well know low-grade trap. But people are falling for it all the time, so for someone it will be new. Let's not grumble if it helps at least one person today.

Remember, George: no man is a failure who has friends.

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  watwinc: There's a Keres game here - the story is, he won with white, went out and played tennis all afternoon and had horrible sunburn next day. An Olympiad, I think ...
Jun-14-10  newzild: I also think the game shouldn't be in the database. The "rule" is meant to be that one player should be elo 2200 or above. Including lower-rated games in the database reduces the validity and usefulness of the openings explorer.
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  whiteshark: statistics - they are mind-boggling...
Jun-14-10  melianis: M Vodiska vs Fejes, 1983
Jun-14-10  Omnishambles: Well, it was new to me. At least there is one less way I might be ninja-mated in future.
Jun-14-10  atakantmac: Why did white play Bd3?
Jun-14-10  Cardinal Fang: I am guessing White played Bd3 to make the intention behind Qe2 less glaringly obvious - unlike in the Vodiska-Fejes game which, to add insult to injury, was by correspondence.
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  Phony Benoni: Looking at the games with similar gid numbers (see the link in the window at the top of your screen), it becomes obvious that somebody found a file of short games and submitted them <en masse> simply because they were short games.

Some of them, such as the one with the next highest gid (W Waagmeester vs Van Arkel, 1989), are probably not even short games, but incomplete scores. Sumbitters should check this sort of thing, but computer databases make it all too easy to skip that vital step.

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  kevin86: A smothered-type mate! It's brevity is good compensation for the lack of a queen sac.

The earliest mate of this type is

1c3 ♘c6 2 e4 ♘b4 3 ♘e2 ♘d3#

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  chrisowen: Qe2 line really docks the point. Black is cruising until 6..g6 gaffed in the line. Whaling away Dzurny brace support got him hook line and sinker. White sees it roughly the danger posed by Nd6# defence is breached. Red light goes on and any harbouring thoughts dont linger. Black took a smoking streetlight people.
Jun-14-10  goodevans: Given that today's puzzle is aimed at beginners, I was very disappointed to find that the GOTD was also aimed at the novice. However, when I read <Phony Benoni>'s kibitz I decided to play through a few of these Brief Encounters (to ape <Once>'s film references).

My advice: Don't do it. It's addictive!

D Ferguson vs B Wall, 1989 is truly awful. The end of P Leisebein vs H Tuchtenhagen, 1989 would, however, make a good puzzle.

With only a casual interest in chess, I'm glad I came upon these. I can fully understand why those with a more serious interest would want them removed.

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  Once: <atakantmac: Why did white play Bd3?>

There's actually a little bit of common sense in that move. After 4...Nd7

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... the quickest way to get into the trap is to play 5. Qe2. Now, if black plays on autopilot with 5...Ngf6, white gets to play his trick of 6. Nd6#.

But what if black knows the trick and plays something else? Say 5...Qc7 or 5...e6? Then the queen on e2 can look pretty silly, as it blocks in the Bf1. And g3/ Bg2 doesn't look too appealling as the black b7/c6 pawn barrier blocks fun along the long diagonal.

So white delays his Qe2 move for one turn, develops with Bd3 instead and hopes that the trap is still there one move later. And if black sidesteps the trap white still has a reasonable setup to play from.

Jun-14-10  reztap: I won a rapid game almost the same as this. I played Q-e2 instead of b d3. My opponent beat me in a regular game a couple of years later. C'est la vie.
Jun-14-10  ragtime.willy: Weak game, but nice to see a Shakespeare reference. And not a particularly well known one at that!
Oct-23-10  Markcf: I played a game on fics and it went like this..1e4 e5,2Nf3 d6,3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 ,c6 5.Bb5# Bd7 6.BxB# NxB 7.Nf5 Ngd7......8.Nd6 mate....and i weren't even playing blitz,but my 1900 rated opponent were tryin to!!! Fool...
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  technical draw: <Markcf> Cool game. It's always good to beat a higher rated player. BTW are you still on benefits? I ask because after you didn't pay your rent for a year I thought they might suspend the benefits. I hope not. I hear you can get a cell phone too, check it out. Later.
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  whiteshark: Better call S Saul

I Kann mate it Legal.

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  louispaulsen88888888: What is the big deal whether itís in the database or not. Itís fun to play out.
Itís instructive.
You can do it in your head. No need to set up board and pieces. It takes one minute to look at.
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