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Jose Antonio Nunez Vallina vs Carlos Ferron Garcia
Abierto (1994), Abierto (Spain), rd 5
Scotch Game: Steinitz Variation (C45)  ·  0-1


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  InspiredByMorphy: Does 12.Bd3 save white?
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  tpstar: <InspiredByMorphy> Yes, much better than the game continuation. 12. Bd3 Qxd4! 13. Qxd4 Nec2+ & recaptures on d4 whether or not White plays Bxc2, so Black wins a Pawn. Also 12. Ke2?! Nec2 13. Rb1 Nxd4+ swipes a button. Under pressure, White probably had temporary blindness and forgot how the Nd2 defended the Pf3.
Dec-08-04  Cyphelium: <tpstar & IBM> After 12. Bd3 Qxd4 13. Ke2!, black is in danger of losing a knight: 13.- Qxc3 14. bxc3 Nxd3 15. Kxd3 Ng2 16. Rg1 or 13.- Nec2 14. Bxc2 Qxc3 15. bxc3 Nxc2 16. Rb1 followed by Kd3. Then there is 13.- Qb6, but black still can't save his knight after 14. Nb3, since 14.- Ng2 runs into 15. Qxg7 Rf8 16. Bh6 - curtains.

Conclusion: 12. Bd3 probably wins for white.

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  tpstar: <Cyphelium> When you leave your Queen en prise, your opponent is supposed to take it! ;>) Seriously, thank you very much for your analysis. Looks like it should be 11 ... Ne3?! or 11 ... Ne3?? instead, only gaining one Pawn for the piece since the Knights have no escape squares. Well spotted.
Dec-08-04  azaris: <Cyphelium> What about 13...c5?
Dec-08-04  Cyphelium: <azaris> That was interesting. I thought that after 12. Bd3 Qxd4 13. Ke2 c5, 14. Nb3 would take care of everything, but now I see that this isn't so: 14.- Qxd3+ 15. Qxd3 Nxd3 16. Kxd3 c4+ etc. Better is probably 14. Bb1, with the threat of 15. Nb3. I don't see how black can save the piece there. For example 14.- d5 15. Nb3 Qxc3 16. bxc3 Nec2 17. Bxc2 Nxc2 18. Rb1 etc.
Dec-09-04  azaris: <Cyphelium> Bb1 looks winning, yes.
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