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| Jan-26-04 |
| ossolinskm: maybe this game was played blindfolded? |
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| Feb-23-04 |
| Hidden Skillz: on move 7.Bxf7+..its not just a check..as u see if the king refuses to eat the bishop..queen is trapped by..h3 |
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| Feb-23-04 |
| TrueFiendish: Except that it could then hide on g3... |
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| Feb-25-04 |
| Hidden Skillz: heh ye..nm |
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| Apr-17-04 |
| darkeh: i just joined the site and im confused. could someone help me out? |
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| Apr-17-04 |
| nikolaas: <darkeh> You're welcome; the more souls the more fun and the more eyes that can see things that mine can't see. But what is your problem? You can submit games at PGN Upload Utility .You can make game collections on your profile page and how you can kibitz do you already know :-)
Maybe you can find a solution for all your problems (or some of them) at help. |
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Apr-17-04
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| iron maiden: Welcome to the greatest chess site in the world, darkeh. If anything about kibitzing confuses you, check the kibitz help page: Kibitzing Tricks |
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Sep-13-04
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| Knight13: NN's gotta work on Queen loses. |
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| Mar-18-05 |
| Mate Hunter: 6...Qg4 leads to Queen lose. 7.Bxf7+ Kf8 8.h3 Qg3 9.Bd2 (9...Kxf7 10.Ne5+ 1-0) and 10.Be1 trap the queen. |
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May-27-05
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| geezerbloke: <Mate Hunter> 9...Kxf7 10Ne5+ Ke6 is this not an escape for black? |
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May-27-05
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| geezerbloke: maybe
10.......Ke6
11 Ng4...Qh4
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| Oct-11-05 |
| AlexanderMorphy: I have to meet this NN, i'll ask him how it feels to lose 77 odd games in a row against Greco....this statistic though isn't very good because Greco only published the games he won lol |
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| Oct-20-05 |
| DeepBlade: Nice fork, looks similar to Greco vs NN, 1620 |
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| Feb-25-06 |
| McCool: That was just stupid playing on black's part. |
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| Dec-08-06 |
| Ch3ckmate: i wonder if there ever even has been a NN guy playing against Greco. he studied different tactics and traps so he might as well have set the pieces up for hes "opponents" to make them work. its just a silly theory, but you would imagine hes opponents would have been a bit more careful for atleast some of the most obvious forks and traps? |
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Dec-10-06
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| Karpova: <Ch3ckmate>
well, the theory is not so silly. Greco did indeed create a lot of studies for his pupils which cannot be distinguished anymore.
But some of his games were probably real games played against human-beings and not just studies.
Some candidates:
Greco vs NN, 1620
NN vs Greco, 1620
NN vs Greco, 1620
Greco vs NN, 1620
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| May-17-07 |
| schmidts31: Feb-23-04 Hidden Skillz: on move 7.Bxf7+..its not just a check..as u see if the king refuses to eat the bishop..queen is trapped by..h3 Feb-23-04 TrueFiendish: Except that it could then hide on g3...Mar-18-05 Mate Hunter: 6...Qg4 leads to Queen lose. 7.Bxf7+ Kf8 8.h3 Qg3 9.Bd2 (9...Kxf7 10.Ne5+ 1-0) and 10.Be1 trap the queen.
Better still is this line when 6...Qg4 7. Bxf7+ Kd8
8. h3 Qg3
9. Nc3! Nc6
10. Ne2! Nf6, or Nh6 to attack bishop.
11. Nxg3 fxg3
12. Bg5 Rf8
And black is down the queen and a solid development of white's army should be able to convert the win. |
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| Sep-22-07 |
| wolfmaster: <McCool> Hasn't NN always played stupidly? |
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Oct-17-07
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| blazerdoodle: And of course he could have played the games against real people in little cafes and clubs and not paid much attention to many of them, as patzers against the master, they would all blur - mostly. Perhaps they didn't exhcange game sheets the way we do now, so he just scribbled in NN. But we can only guess, as it is impossible to see these games in the light of the time they were played, but in the filter of our infinite knowledge of hindsite. I'm not that good, and NN plays better (usually) than I do, but here he blows it. Another beer please.
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| Nov-02-07 |
| priapus56: The comments on Greco's games on this site are rather amusing. What most people don't seem to realise is that he played or worked out his games long before computers were invented, before books were widely available,before any elaborate book of openings was ever printed, and when only a few, elite people played chess. Give him a break! For his time he was a genius. |
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| Dec-26-07 |
| mistreaver: <maybe this game was played blindfolded?>
Probably there were no blindfold games at a time. Check which year it was and consider that it was played against NN. |
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Dec-26-07
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| Billy Vaughan: I like how NN doesn't resign on the eighth move. Gee, what did he expect Greco to do? |
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Oct-08-08
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| just a kid: Anything but taking the bishop on move 7 still lets Black stay in the game. |
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| Apr-25-09 |
| Kinghunt: While the text shows a horrible continuation by black, it nevertheless highlights an important theme: bishop sacrifice on f7 followed by knight check. This comes up all the time when I play. |
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| Oct-27-09 |
| Wayne Proudlove: Yeah, there's no doubt watching these games has improved my play considerably. I think the guys at chessclub tonight were thinking I'd made some kind of leap of faith. |
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sac: 7.Bxf7+
