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|Apr-04-05|| ||Karpova: <clocked>
a fifth reason is that kasparov saw that he couldn't achieve anything with 1.c4 also.
he tried something new (na4) but immediately realised that this would be useless anyway (since being no great novelty)
|Apr-04-05|| ||Eric Schiller: <all> Anyone who saw Kasparov just before the game knows that he was clearly greatly distracted by a non-chess matter. It was not appropriate for me, as arbiter, to ask why, so I didn't. He left quickly after the game. In many matches, things going on off the board affected some games, not just in Iceland 72. Perhaps Kasparov will write of such things in a future book, covering all of his matches. |
|Apr-05-05|| ||Lawrence: Thanks, Mr. Schiller, it's great having you on board here for your personal recollections of things like that, appreciated by all of us. |
|Apr-05-05|| ||Stevens: <ericschiller> yes, i've also read that off the board private matters were affecting Kasparov a lot before and during this match which upset his preperation and his play. Kramnik still beat him fair and square though (in the non pre arranged games ;-), but oh for a rematch... *sigh* |
|Jun-01-05|| ||Heavy Metal Thunder: 11 moves, what a joke.|
|Oct-04-05|| ||Virus Malaise: Even Kasparov got infected by Kramnik´s Malaise!!!!!!!!!|
Kramnik disease to draw its very dangerous, it can kill passion for truly chess, even with Kasparov!!!!!!!!
|Oct-04-05|| ||Virus Malaise: A salute to my friend <hintza>|
Come see your idols malaise!!!!
|Oct-04-05|| ||aw1988: By the way, do you realize something? Yes, Kramnik seems to have a higher draw percentage than most people. Yet, who makes the draws? It is, call me crazy, mutual consent. Guess what? Kramnik offered a draw on move 11. Malaise Kramnik... except... wait, Kasparov, whom you adore so much, ACCEPTED. It's not just Kramnik. If Kasparov wanted to fight on, he had every right to do so, and may have won. That isn't the point. Kasparov agreed the position was a draw, and so it is.|
|Jan-29-06|| ||Karpova: <aw1988:[...]Kramnik offered a draw on move 11.[...]>|
it's obvious that kasparov offered the draw, not kramnik. all according to the rules: you have to make a move when offering the draw and who made the last move - kasparov
|Jan-29-06|| ||Eric Schiller: <Karpova> Sorry to disappoint you but many short draws are not done according to the rules and Kasparov was infamous for this. That's why I introduced a device at the match where a draw offer had to be accompanied by switching on a light, with buttons for each player. This device has been proposed as a FIDE rule change.|
It is important for the public, press and arbiters to know that a draw is offered, and in previous Kasparov matches the press kept hunting me down to inquire about who offered the draw. I often had to ask Garry about it. So for the Kramnik match we finally introduced the device, which I first suggested back in 1986! The device is included in Stewart Reuben's invaluable Chess Organiser's handbook and I discuss it whenever I teach a course for Arbiters, as I have here in Gibraltar for the GIBTELECOM Chess Festival.
|Jan-29-06|| ||Akavall: I think draw offers (if known) should be included in the PGN, I believe it would add insight about the game.|
|Jan-29-06|| ||Jim Bartle: Absolutely agree. Should be a little smiley-face symbol, or two hands shaking.|
|Jan-29-06|| ||Karpova: <Eric Schiller>
Okay, so this short draw was not according to the rules. but it was still kasparov who offered the draw, wasn't it?
i remember that game and kasparov's disappointment after 11.na4
|Jan-29-06|| ||Jim Bartle: This one's all on Kasparov. He was a point behind in the match and had white.|
|Oct-15-06|| ||Bufon: <aw1988:Kramnik offered a draw on move 11.>|
And made Kasparov accept it!!
|Oct-25-06|| ||crazy monk: A very unprepare and scared Kasparov.|
|Oct-25-06|| ||ahmadov: So, who said that Kasparov did not like short draws?|
|Mar-21-07|| ||themanfrommanila: Kasparov was obviously dumping the match, plain and simple.|
|Dec-18-07|| ||juandadamo: Found some thoughts in
|Mar-19-08|| ||ToTheKings: I found this quote on chessbase and laughed so hard my sides hurt:|
"Mark Vogan, Houston, TX, USA
By the way, you will not see GM draws in match play; they only occur in tournaments."
|Jul-03-08|| ||Abejorral: What is this crap ?? <chessgames> shoudnt mind to publish this|
|Sep-11-08|| ||Karpova: Vladimir Kramnik: <Zhenya [Evgeny Bareev] had suggested the move 4...a6 to me. Here the lack of confidence in himself that Kasparov was showing made a difference. He wasn't ready to play things by ear, he wanted to obtain an advantage in the opening, and he wasn't ready to play an equal position. He didn't know the exact move order and he was afraid to sacrifice a pawn. He offered a draw when the position was quite promising for me, plus I had about 40 minutes more time left. I thought about it, whether or not to play on, but I decided that a short draw as White would be extremely unpleasant for him. If we continued playing, the game, most likely, would still end in a draw, but the after-taste for Kasparov would be different after a long game. So I agreed.>|
Bareev, Evgeny & Levitov, Ilya: "From London to Elista", Alkmaar, 2007, page 108
|Oct-01-08|| ||niceforkingmove: Mr. Schiller
How could it be that "anyone who saw Kasparov just before the game knows that he was clearly greatly distracted by a non-chess matter" ? I suppose that one can observe certain actions that show Mr. Kasparov was distracted or upset. But how would one rule out the possibility that those actions were due to the fact that he is losing this match? I'm sincerely interested.
Please tell us what you observed.
|Feb-26-10|| ||Alphastar: I recently got into this same opening variation in a club team match, and I also played 7. Qd3? and the same up to move 10.|
The position is rather unpleasant for white because there is no clear plan. I tried 11. Bg5?! followed by e3 and Qe2, had to give up the bishop pair after ..h6, and my opponent eventually squeezed out a win in Karpovian style. 11. Na4 is probably better, as is 11. b3 developing the bishop to b2. But in any case black has a very solid position with well-coordinated pieces.
As I have the book "From London to Elista" I should've remembered these two greats also played the same variation. Bareev gives the pawn sacrifice 7. O-O which Kasparov played in a later rapid (?) game against Kramnik, this game to be precise: Kasparov vs Kramnik, 2001
|Oct-30-15|| ||offramp: Eleven mooooooves.|
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