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|Aug-29-05|| ||notyetagm: Oh, the perils of lining up your king and queen: 36 xc7+! xc7 37 a7+ c8 38 x. White uses the <looseness of the c7-square> (equal numbers of attackers and defenders) to <decoy (attract)> the enemy king to c7 to create a <skewer along the 7th rank>.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||tiburon92: i saw the deflection sac. Sometimes it helps to be greedy.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||YouRang: Pretty easy -- deflection to set up a skewer. It was the 2nd move I looked at.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||knightfever: My idea was 36.Qc6 and after the black king's move 37.a6, but I don't know if it happen something good for white !|
|Aug-29-05|| ||sharpnova: why wasn't it 35. white to play and win? that was easy too..|
|Aug-29-05|| ||sharpnova: or 34. as well.. it was forced as far back as that..|
|Aug-29-05|| ||RookFile: Yeah, no problem, 36. Rxc7+ wins easily, as does the simple minded 36. Qc6+ Ke7 37. Bxe3 dxe3 38. Qxc7+ Ke8 39. Qxf7+ Kxf7 40. Re1|
On 36. Qc6+, entertaining is 36... Kc8
37. Bxe3 dxe3 38. a6 e2 39. a7 and lights out.
|Aug-29-05|| ||chessic eric: I can't believe I didn't get this. Sometimes I think I should just
quit this game altogether. I was so worried about f3 that I
thought Qc6 couldn't be bad. So I looked at 35.Qc6+,Kc8 36.Bxe3
(avoiding forced Queen exchange on f3 and clearing d- file),dxe3
37.Qa8+,Kd7 38.Rd1+,Ke6. The problem was 39.Qxd8 still left f3
undefended after all that, and while blacks 39.Qxf3 was no longer mate due to 36.Bxe3, I clearly hadn't found an easy winning line for white. This analysis of course confirmed my worries about the f3 problem and I looked for other lines after 35.Qc6+
but didn't find any wins.
Then I saw 35.Rxc7+,Kxc7 36.Qb6+,Kd7 37.Qxd4+ and 38.Qxe3 which was enough of an improvement on my earlier attempts that I though I had solved it. Little did I know I missed a simple skewer leading to Q+B and pawns vs. R+R. Argh.
Somewhat ironically, if this had been "34.? White to play" as <aginis> suggested, I'm pretty sure I would have seen and continued the forcing play through to its conclusion. But coming into this 'en media res' I didn't see it.
|Aug-29-05|| ||molle2006: Pretty easy... would have been a bit more difficult to also find the move before.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||kevin86: A very rare triple skewer! White finally gets "the girl"-in this case,the black queen.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||YouRang: <chessic eric> LOL - Sometimes it helps to remember that it's a Monday (easy level) puzzle, and if your looking at a complex solution, you're probably diving too deep. (That's sort of cheating, I suppose.)|
|Aug-29-05|| ||RookFile: Apparently, the 'fun' win goes:
36. Qc6+ Kc8 37. Bxe3 dxe3 38. a6 e2 39. a7 Rd1+ 40. Kg2 e1=N+! 41. Kg3 Qxf3+ 42. Qxf3 Rxc1 44. a8=Q+
|Aug-29-05|| ||aw1988: Got this, but only after dismissing the alternatives. I know in puzzles taking a free rook is never quite what it appears, and I saw Qc6+ comes to no avail (at least, no quick win).|
|Aug-29-05|| ||aw1988: Actually, taking the rook indeed wins, but I think we can agree Rxc7+ is the best course.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||chessic eric: <aw1988> I don't know if you're referring to the lines i posted above, but after
39.Qxd8?? <taking the rook> does not win due to the black queen's attack on f3 and the powerful e3 pawn:
<YouRang> I've taken CG's new puzzle titles to seriously. They've changed the titles from "...to play and win" to "... to play" as if the best line might be achieving a draw from an otherwise lost position. But in the two weeks since the change, every puzzle solution has been a winner, not a drawer. What's the deal <CG>? Probably just tired of the formulaic postings where people say "well, its easy to find this when you're told there is a winning move, but OTB might not see it..."
|Aug-29-05|| ||aw1988: I meant the rook on e3. Of course, Rxc7+ is the way to go.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||sinthetiq: I really enjoy Mondays :)|
|Aug-29-05|| ||chumpionplya: This is my first posting, I am not that frigin good however this one was very easy and I got it in no time.|
|Aug-29-05|| ||notyetagm: <Never line up your king and queen or let your opponent force you to line them up.>|
|Aug-29-05|| ||BishopofBlunder: This puzzle was like "The Purloined Letter". The solution was hidden in plain sight. The move was too obvious to take me as long as it did to find. But find it I did. :)|
|Aug-29-05|| ||Robin001: Found it in about 30 seconds|
|Aug-29-05|| ||sharpnova: <chessic eric> tired of postings where people show that it's not actually a win but a draw can be forced.|
|Aug-30-05|| ||chumpionplya: This is my first posting, I am not that frigin good however this one was very easy and I got it in no time.|
|Aug-30-05|| ||euripides: The opening here is a Tchigorin defence. I find Shulman's use of the bishops very pleasing. Not a bad performance by Black given the grading difference.|
|Aug-30-05|| ||patzer2: The puzzle solution 36. Rxc7+! sets up a winning skewer tactic.|
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