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|Jan-02-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: An amazing conception, (20.Nce4!!). White returns the piece to win ... and brilliantly so. Perhaps it was no accident that Khalifman (once) won the (FIDE) World's Championship? |
|Jan-02-05|| ||be3292: Question: On move 42, why didn't white capture the pawn on b4? And what was the significance of black's previous move (Bd3)? |
|Jan-02-05|| ||crafty: 24...g8 25. h6+ f8 26. f1+ f6 27. xf6+ xf6 28. g8+ (eval 5.09; depth 12 ply; 250M nodes)|
|Jan-02-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: It seems our robot friend cannot count!! |
|Jan-02-05|| ||newold: <crafty> on 24. ... Kg8 25. Nh6+ Kf8, it seems that if 26. Rf1+ then 26. ... Bf6 ! and black is OK. Instead of 26. Rf1+ I suggest 26. Qg8+ Ke7 27. Re1+ Be5 (the only move : all others lead to mate, you can check) and then 28. Ng4. After 28. Ng4 the bishop in e5 is lost and although the material balance is re-established, black is dead lost (I can't see any move). Happy new year to everybody ! |
|Jan-02-05|| ||chesscookie: A Brilliant win by Khalifman! He was in top form that year. |
|Jan-02-05|| ||patzer2: The solution to today's puzzle with Khalifman's 20. Nce4!! is a deflection pseudo-sacrifice, which sets up the decisive double attack 22. Ng5!|
A testimony to the depth of the combination, and the strength of both of these super GMs, is that Nisipeanu did not play 24...Kg8, entering the complicated pursuit (King hunt) line pointed out by <newold> above.
|Jan-02-05|| ||patzer2: <Life Master AJ> Just curious. How are you and your neighbors in Pensacola coming alone in recovery from hurricane Ivan? I suspect the folks there have a lot of empathy for the victims of the recent tidal wave flood in Asia. |
|Jan-02-05|| ||kevin86: This game has a recurring theme-white sacs material,then wins it back. First,he gives up a rook and piece,then black is forced to give up the queen on penalty of a smothered mate.A later threat forces black to give up the exchange. White finally wins a queen vs two pieces ending. |
|Jan-02-05|| ||Avion: But the sac isn't forced...
I found the move without looking cuz' they said White must move and win, but what's happen if white retreat the queen only?
|Jan-02-05|| ||nateinstein: Finally solved a Sunday puzzle. I got this one, but only up until when the queen would have to take the knight to prevent the mate on g8. I am familiar with the smother mate and the fact that the queen would have to give up either the defense on the e5 or e6 square led me to the double knight sac. Notice that black gives up at the end after moving his queen since he realizes Qd8+ will win the bishop.. |
|Jan-02-05|| ||Flyboy216: <newold>, this is what crafty has to say about 26. ... f6:|
depth=12 1/46 +6.14 27. g8+ e7 28. f5+ d7 29. d1+ c8 30. d6+ b8 31. xe8+ c8 32. xc6 d8 33. xd8 xd8 34. xc8 f6 35. d6 a6 36. xa8 xa8
It gives your 26. g8+ a strong plus as well (+5).
|Jan-02-05|| ||Dettol: Why is this a puzzle?
It's simply diabolical!
|Jan-02-05|| ||EXIDE: <Dettol> I agree. |
|Jan-02-05|| ||reza254: Re/ the line mentioned by newold, ("24. ... Kg8 25. Nh6+ Kf8, it seems that if 26. Rf1+ then 26. ... Bf6 ! and black is OK.)" After 26...Bf6 black is losing: 27. Qg8+ Ke7 28. Re1+ Be5 (else knight falls) 29.Ng4 Nf6 30. Rxe5+ Qxe5 31.Qxg7+ winning the queen next move |
|Jan-02-05|| ||artemis: <Dettol> If you are reffering to the length of the continuation afterwards, yes, but the point of this puzzle is to find the smothered mate, which forces black to give up material.|
This combination is simply beautiful, as white gets great compensation for the piece, tearing apart the pawn structure of his opponent. After 26. ... b4 27. Qd1! is excellent, as white realizes that he must control deprive black of his control of the dark squares, leaving bishops of the same color on the board, allowing white an easier time to use his advantages.
|Jan-02-05|| ||be3292: Thanx all -- I thought that part of the "mission statement" of this website was to assist the less sophisticated beginner. You are obviously more into inbreeding. |
|Jan-02-05|| ||MatrixManNe0: Beg pardon, be3292... I wonder why you were really trying to be so cutting when there are people more interested in another line than yours aforementioned. In any case, I suppose I could try to piece those two moves out.|
41... Bd3 prevents 42. Qxb4, where white wins yet another piece (the knight and bishop must be forked by the queen).
42. a3 would be a discovery tactic, where 42...bxa3 would be met by 43. Qxc3, picking off the knight, attacking the bishop, and winning the two a-pawns. By playing a3 instead of Qxb4, White retains a small tempo advantage, but this is all frivolous, as white is in a winning position at this point of time anyway.
Besides, you being here since August of last year should make you rather well seasoned in the proper etiquette of these kibitzes.
|Jan-03-05|| ||patzer2: be3292, sorry I missed your questions. If I understand correctly, your first question seems to be why not play 42. Qxb4? This move does win, but 42. a3 is also a good alternative. So my answer is that in an easily won position it is a matter of preference. As to the second question, about the significance of 41...Bd3, my answer is it doesn't appear to have much if any significance. Black is clearly lost and at this point 41...Bd3 seems to be just pushing wood on momentum. |
|Jan-03-05|| ||newold: <flyboy216> thanks for your precision ! |
|Jan-07-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Its still an incredible game ... several have e-mailed asking me to annotate it, but I don't have the time right now. |
|Aug-04-06|| ||InspiredByMorphy: 20. ...Qe7 looks like it may hold...|
|Aug-04-06|| ||Rocafella: Most things except the text are OK for black|
|Aug-04-06|| ||crafty: 20...e7 21. xe5 dxe4 22. xe4 d8 23. f4 f6 24. g5 (eval 3.82; depth 14 ply; 250M nodes)|
|Aug-06-06|| ||InspiredByMorphy: Crafty's analysis: |
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