Norbert Coenen vs Graham K Burgess (2002) Coenen the Barbarian

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Norbert Coenen vs Graham K Burgess
"Coenen the Barbarian" (game of the day Dec-12-2004)
European Club Cup (2002), Halkidiki GRE, rd 2, Sep-23
Alekhine Defense: Modern Variation. Main Line (B05) · 1-0

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Dec-12-04		Seraphina: Hi there. Shams, the AD is quite tricky I find. As a user of this defense, I feel 5....e6 would have been better (c4...Nb6 or e7 later redeployed to g6). Burgess saced the exchange... why? Rc8 was ok. And later Bf7 was not necessary. NxB would have left a troubled game but still playable. Though by that time he was in trouble already

Dec-12-04		Shams: <Seraphina> 25...Rc8 26.Qxa5 and black can`t play Nxd5...he is strategically lost! I agree AD is very tricky. In fact, I have poor results against it. But as regards its soundness...remember, even Alekhine himself stopped playing it. :)

Dec-12-04		captcrisis: Sorry, I'm just a beginner. Why did Black resign?If 31 . . . Qe8, what can White do? If 32. Rf8+, then . . .Kxf8 and Black would seem clearly ahead.

Dec-12-04		Where is my mind: <captcrisis> 32.Re7+ no matter what blacks move is the Queen is taken.

Dec-12-04		KampongBoy: If 31... Qe8; 32. Re7 dis. ch Kf8/h8 33. Rxe8 and White will be up two full Bishops, an easy win at this level.

Dec-12-04		KampongBoy: Sorry Shams, Burgess is not a GM. See Martin - Burgess for a beautiful game in which he thumps a GM! What title does he have, if any?

Dec-12-04		acirce: Burgess is an FM. http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.ph...

Dec-12-04		mahmoudkubba: It seems from move 25 for black that the player getsd in a physical minded method that he or she couldn't play right any more or any longer ??

Dec-12-04		mahmoudkubba: <acirce> what is FM??, also how to register in the site you r talking about??

Dec-12-04		acirce: FM = FIDE Master, a title awarded by FIDE. You need to get a rating of at least 2300 and pay a fee to FIDE to get it. Register? You shouldn't have to register, or what do you mean?

Dec-12-04		captcrisis: I see. And if 31 . . . Qxa4, then White's best move is 32. Rd7, then Kf8, 33. Rxe8+, Ke7. Black is not in a checkmate trap and still has his Queen, but is otherwise well behind in material. I suppose that's insurmountable.

Dec-12-04		nosh: <captcrisis>, Right... this discovered check winning material concept is one to remember... It happens all the time.

Dec-12-04		CHEG: Was 27...b6 a mistake? Why not 27...Qxe6 and black's up a minor piece?

Dec-12-04		Ernesto7: if 27..Qxe6 then the white queen takes the black rook..27..b6 has the idea to block the queen

Dec-12-04		CHEG: Missed that thanks Ernesto

Dec-12-04		Seraphina: shams... 25... Rcc8. 26 Qa5? Nbxd5, NxN, 27 Qxe6... Not too bad for black I think... But maybe I missed something. (Yes, I know AA gave it up. I guess it's good at club level ;-))

Dec-13-04		Shams: <Seraphina> obviously white takes on d5 with the Bishop, not the knight. 25...Rcc8 26.Qxa5 Nbxd5?? 27.Bxd5

Dec-13-04		Seraphina: Shams.. how do you get the interlocutor's name in brown and with the <> around it??? ... I looked at that: Bxd5, Nxd5 28 Qxd5, Bf7... All white can do is take the d6 pawn and lose the exchange. I still don't see why burgess went and sacced the exchange on c3..

Dec-13-04		chessgames.com: Seraphina, please see Kibitzing Tricks.

Dec-13-04		Shams: <Seraphina> well my wide-eyed kitten friend, you are right...at least, it`s much more complicated than I made it out to be. ...Bf7 is very strong and I completely missed it. However white can preserve material equality with: 26.Qxa5 Nbxd5 27.Bxd5 Nxd5 28.Rxg6 Nxe3 29.Rg5 which I originally thought slightly favored white. but after 29...Qc6 I think white is toast. good lines. you`ve earned canned food instead of dry, today. ;)

Dec-13-04		Seraphina: miaou, miaou!

Dec-13-04		kevin86: The queen can run but she can't hide! If 30...♕xa4,her only escape,31 ♖d7+ followed by ♖xd8+,gaining an advantage of 2♖ + 2♗ vs a ♕,a crushing advantage

Dec-15-04		patzer2: Instead of 25...Rxc3? (or 25...Rc8!? =), better for Black was 25...Nbxd5! 26. Nxd5 Nxd5 27. Bxd5 Rxd5 with an extra pawn and a slight advantage.

Dec-15-04		patzer2: Black also blunders with 28...Bf7?? Relatively better was 28...Nxd5!? 29. Qxd5 Bf7 30. Rxd6 Qxd6 31. Qxd6 Rxd6 32. Bd4 , when White has an extra pawn but Black has drawing chances.

Dec-15-04		patzer2: White's 28. Bxd5! Bf7?? 29. Rxf6!! is an excellent example of gaining an advantage or winning with the threat of "discovered check." 28. ♗xd5! ♗f7?? [28...Nxd5!? 29. Qxd5 Bf7 30. Rxd6 Qxd6 31. Qxd6 Rxd6 32. Bd4 ; 28...bxa8?? 29. Re8#] 29. ♖xf6!! bxa5 [29...gxf6 30. Bxb6 ] 30. ♖xf7 [also winning is 30. ♗xf7+! ♔h8 31. ♗d4! ]

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