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Robert James Fischer vs J Jones
Simul, 51b (1964), Detroit, MI USA, Feb-09
King's Gambit: Declined. Soller-Zilbermints Gambit (C30)  ·  1-0
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Sep-21-04
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  offramp: Do you have to take bread?
Sep-21-04
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  Willem Wallekers: I'm no GM, I need other ways do get my bread.
Where do you stop between Calais and Vladivistok?
Sep-21-04
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  offramp: Calais-Lumbres-Fauquembergues-Arras-Vladivostock.
Sep-21-04
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  Willem Wallekers: I'll jump in at Arras.
Jun-03-05  The 3 Gambiteers: Why not 5... Nxf6 rather than 5... gxf6??
Jun-03-05  Kangaroo: After lloking through such a poor play romatically thinking kibitzers can say that it would be great if grandmasters played the King's gambit daily!

J. Jones - had he played chess before 1964?

Aug-24-05  sneaky pete: He played chess before, see Morphy vs J Jones, 1859. Last time he got creamed after 2... exf4, so he prepared the improvement 2... f6 to play it safe.
Sep-15-05  Averageguy: Fischer could have won in a nicer way by sacing his queen.
Sep-15-05  Robert De Leon Jr.: Is it just me or has anyone really looked at J. Jones' HISTORY. This PERSON has to be at least ONE-HUNDRED and FORTY-ONE (141) years of age to have played from 1859-2000 and I highly doubt that. <chessgames.com> any comments...
Sep-15-05  RookFile: Well, he would have been about 100
when this game was played, which
explains why he was blown away in 8
moves. LOL.
Dec-05-05  Chopin: This game is painful to go over. Fischer just slaughtered this guy.
Apr-11-06  DeepBlade: This is why Fisher stresses the knowledge of opening theory.
Apr-11-06  zev22407: 2)..f6 the best move in this position.
Apr-11-06  zev22407: J. Jonas is playing today somewhere.
Apr-11-06  iamverywellatchess: Jenny Jones plays chess?
Apr-11-06  zev22407: Just joking
Jun-19-06  cuendillar: A strong improvement is 4...fxe5, when 5.d5?! is strongly met by Qh4+ 6.Kd2 Nf6! 7.Nc3 Nd4 with an excellent position. 7.dxc6? Nxe4+ 8.Ke2 Qf2+ 9.Kd3 Qe4+ 10.Ke2 Qxd1+! 11.Kxd1 Nf2+ is decisive.
Jun-19-06  RookFile: I think you're right that 4...fxe5 is best. Fischer probably would have played 5. Nf3
Feb-14-10
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  GrahamClayton: <iamverywellatchess>Jenny Jones plays chess?

<imaverywellatchess>, I think Black was Jesus Jones. After this disaster he gave up chess, moved to England and formed a band in the early 1990's :-)

Aug-28-11
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  perfidious: All this is wrong-it was Jerry Jones who played Black, then realised he would be better off in the business milieu.
Oct-25-11  FSR: Boo - he could have played 8.Qh6+ instead.
Oct-25-11
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  Phony Benoni: But that wouldn't have been original, but merely copying the idea from Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865. Besides, it goes against all opening principles to move the queen twice before moving the QB once.

Or maybe he didn't think Black's play was worth wasting a queen sac on.

In any event, this game may well have contributed to Fischer's later psychological trauma. I wouldn't e surprised if, for the rest of the night, everybody kept asking him, "Why didn't you play 8.Q-R6 ch against Jones?" Enough to embitter anyone.

Nov-29-14  TheFocus: From a simul in Detroit, Michigan on February 9, 1964.

Fischer scored +47=2-2.

May-13-15  DanielHoseano: Fischer lose 2 game from simuls? Wew
May-07-18
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  tpstar: <This is silly, a game like this doesn't belong in a serious database> At least we know the name of the opening!

<Boo - he could have played 8.Qh6+ instead> Boden's Mate!

So hard keeping up with the Joneses.

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