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|May-19-07|| ||Nasruddin Hodja: <ChessTeacher>: Noble sentiments indeed. Me, I prefer to practice at becoming the type of chessmaster who eats for breakfast those who try to attack with boldness. |
Instead of having to find 31. ... Bc5+, Kramnik must have missed earlier in the game the chance to maintain his winning chances. I think he might have tried 25. ... Nf5! 26. Rxc2 Nxd3 27. Rc7 Nxf1 28. Kxf1 Qg3 which seems to maintain more pressure on white. While there are many pawn gambit openings which are sound, the Evans being the most famous, I suspect there are no piece gambit openings which are sound, the Cochrane included.
|Oct-08-07|| ||alexrawlings: Should white not win here? I don't understand why its a drawn game...|
|Oct-09-07|| ||whiteshark: <Nasruddin Hodja> After your suggestested <25...Nf5 26. Bf2> looks like a better move:
click for larger view
It may transpose to the actual game or, if the rook moves on the 2nd rank, may go another way.
|Jan-11-08|| ||hnishy: I want to arm Rybka with this Gambit, if not prohibited as anti-humanitic.|
|Apr-09-08|| ||sallom89: i like how Topalov shock his opponents.|
|Apr-30-08|| ||Poisonpawns: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 Be7 6.Nc3 c6!7.Bc4+ d5 8.exd5 cxd5 9.Nxd5 Be6 10.Ne3 Bxc4 11.Nxc4 Nc6=
Nunns chess openings.This line is the best play for both sides i believe in the cochrane.It is definetly playable for white,but i do think black is slightly better.I will almost go out on a limb and say it is just as good as the other lines in the petroff,but perhaps that is going to far.|
|Apr-30-08|| ||slomarko: Topa loves to shock Kramnik with these Nf7! sacs. sometimes Kramnik even manages to get a draw, like here.|
|May-23-08|| ||andymac: <alexrawlings>: I think it's a draw, because after 32. Rxc5 Ng3+ is a draw bu perpetual as White must move 33. Kh2 hence allowing the perpetual with 33. ... Nf1+.|
If White moves 33. Kf2 Ne4+ forks the Rook and wins.
|Feb-22-09|| ||WhiteRook48: sac, sac, sac, and perpetual|
|May-02-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 4. Nxf7?!|
|May-18-09|| ||Atking: Why not simply 8...cxd 9.Qxd4 Nc6 10.Qc4+ Kd7 (Without light square Bishop on the board isn't queen side more safe (Ka8) than king one?) with Qe7~Re8~Kc8 (Or Qe6!?)? I can't see how White could justify his sacrifice in f7.|
|May-19-09|| ||Poohblah: After 32. Rxc5 it isn't necessarily perpetual check due to 32. Rxc5 Ng3 33. Kf2|
or am I missing something?
|May-22-09|| ||ceebo: <or am I missing something?> Yes, 33...Ne4+ winning the white rook.|
|May-31-09|| ||centercounter: Never mind the Cochrane! I want to see the Halloween Gambit. Failing that (Topalov Black), Albin or the rarely seen Baltic QG.|
|Jul-21-09|| ||whiteshark: <Have you ever (been) sacked on Cochrane, 'Nick?>,
a famous Sharon Stone quote on C42 basics, if I'm not mistaken.|
|Jul-27-09|| ||muwatalli: the cochrane seems to be quite a long term and exciting gambit, this along with the italian variation should give any player who wants excitement in the opening a chance to smile once in awhile.|
|Nov-05-09|| ||The Chess Express: <Atking> You might want to check out the following game. My sense is that white's compensation lies more in his pawns than a direct attack|
L Rodi vs J C De Las Heras, 2000
|Nov-23-09|| ||Atking: Thanks for the game <The Chess Express> But instead of the strange 32...Kb8?! of the game I will probably play 32...Rg8 33.g3 Rg5 or f5 with a fair game for Black.|
|May-20-10|| ||newzild: The Cochrane has been my only line against the Petroff since I started playing club chess in 1995. When I joined the club, another player lent me Bronstein's "200 Open Games", and in the notes to one of his games the great man suggested that the Cochrane was fully viable.|
I think I've scored about 80 per cent with the Cochrane, mostly in blitz games on the internet. I did play the Cochrane in one rated game in Wellington in 1996, and won in about 17 moves against a 1600 player. After the game Jonathan Sarfati told me the Cochrane was dubious and that I shouldn't try it against the club's masters, Anthony Ker and Russell Dive. I should have taken the opportunity to ask what I SHOULD play against a master...
The line that has always given me the most difficulty is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5!, immediately chipping away at White's ideal centre.
|May-20-10|| ||HeMateMe: I always play the Petroff against 1. e4, and have had lots of blitz games involving the Cochrane. Some I win, some I lose. I don't really understand the opening; I think you really have to have a number of lines memorized to survive with black.|
|Dec-29-11|| ||tud: Topalov is a man with guts. To play something like that against Kramnik. All my respect.|
|Apr-09-12|| ||plang: Kramnik must have been surprised by 4 Nxf7!?. 5 Nc3 is quite rarely played and Kramnik's 5..c5!? was a completely new idea; was he trying to avoid preparation by Topalov or was he just improvising in an opening that he probably had limited theoretical knowledge?Kramnik cleverly returned material with 8..Kf7!; the alternative 8..cxd 9 Qxd4..Nc6 10 Qc4+..Kd7 11 Bg5..Rc8 12 0-0-0 would have left White with good compensation for the piece. Kramnik thought White's best chance would have been 16 h3..Nxe3 17 Qxe3 followed by Ne4 although Black would have maintained a clear edge. Kramnik lost a lot of his advantage with 21..Rc8?; he thought 21..Qxc2 would have been winning for instance after 22 f5..Nxf5 23 Qf4..Bc5+ 24 Kh2..Rhf8 25 Rd2..Ne3!.|
|Feb-18-13|| ||waustad: Here we get to remember how much fun Topolov games were a few years ago. He and Chepa dreamed up some amazing stuff, like the other famous knight sac on f7.|
|Aug-18-14|| ||posoo: now dis - DIS - is a PERFECT example of one man fighting to fight. LOOK at da topman, going for da gusto! |
And look at all these second-rate kibizzers. "BUT DA COCRAN IS NOT GOOD" they say. WHO CARES? knowing imperfections are FAR superior to pretend perfects like da critiks!
ps just like krumnuk to find a draugh!
|Sep-30-14|| ||tranquilsimplicity: <newzild> Sarfati claims that the Cochrane Gambit is dubious? Bronstein asserts that the gambit is very playable. And to prove it, Topalov, a super GM played it against the World Number 2, Kramnik, and the game was drawn. Your own experience proves that the gambit is very playable! In fact, many a time, one's own experience is the ultimate teacher. I would therefore not pay attention to what Jonathan Sarfati said.#|
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