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|Jun-05-06|| ||chessmoron: <dzechiel> Only 2 useless moves until checkmate 40...Qxf2+ 41. Rxf2-Ra1+ 42. Qb1-Rxb1 43. Rf1-Rf1#.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||Kings Indian: Got this in like 10 seconds. I almost picked Rxf2 for a solution but i found Qxf2.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||Fezzik: I didn't like this one because there are several good moves for Black here. Of course, as a Black to play and mate in the shortest # of moves, it might be good.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||Madman99X: I think if anything other than ...Qxf2+!, then 41. Qe8+! and black can force perpetual check, at the very least.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||fersonatu: Madman99X - 40 ... Rxf2 41 Qe8 isn't perpetual because 41 ... Kh7 42 Nf8 (patzer2 gives the Nf6 line) Nxf8 43 Qxe3 Rxf1 is mate|
|Jun-05-06|| ||suenteus po 147: While a simple puzzle it is still evil because you cannot fast forward to the answer to double check yourself :)|
|Jun-05-06|| ||Mating Net: This puzzle is terrible because you can't even play the winning move.|
I think that all puzzles should have the first move of the combination played. It's a major letdown otherwise.
|Jun-05-06|| ||unclewalter: a re-puzzle...nice. i guess i've been looking at these for a while...time flies. i had forgotten that maurice ashley quote--his run at being the yogi berra of chess?|
|Jun-05-06|| ||chrisowen: Black traps with b6 locating the honey pot on f1!|
|Jun-05-06|| ||Whitehat1963: Isn't 40...Qxf2 the ONLY move here?|
|Jun-05-06|| ||Mountainman1: I just solved a puzzle along these lines - I actually thought it was the same one, so it took about one nao-second today.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||RandomVisitor: 38...Qxe3+ was not the best for Black, as White has 39.Kh1, and the game is (almost) playable.|
Better for Black was 38...Ba6! with a winning advantage.
As far as the puzzle, there appear to be 4 ways to mate:
18 -M4 40. ... Qxf2+ 41.Rxf2 Ra1+ 42.Qb1 Rxb1+ 43.Rf1 Rxf1+
18 -M9 40. ... Nf4 41.Qe8+ Qxe8 42.b5 Rxf2 43.Kxf2 Nd3+ 44.Kg1 Qe3+ 45.Kh1 Nf2+ 46.Kg1 Nh3+ 47.Kh1 Qg1+ 48.Rxg1 Nf2+
18 -M13 40. ... Rxf2 41.Qe8+ Kh7 42.Nf8+ Nxf8 43.b5 Rxf1+ 44.Kxf1 Qxe8 45.bxa6 Ne6 46.Ke2 Nf4+ 47.Kd2 Qe2+ 48.Kc3 Qe3+ 49.Kc2 Ne2 50.h4 Nd4+ 51.Kd1 Qe2+ 52.Kc1 Qc2+
18 -M17 40. ... Nd4 41.Qb1 Bxf1 42.Qxa2 Qe1 43.h4 Bc4+ 44.Kh2 Bxa2 45.Nd3 Qxh4+ 46.Kg1 Nxf3+ 47.gxf3 Qg3+ 48.Kf1 Qxf3+ 49.Kg1 Qg3+ 50.Kf1 Qxd3+ 51.Kf2 Qd2+ 52.Kg3 Qe3+ 53.Kg2 Bd5+ 54.Kf1 Bf3 55.b5 Qe2+ 56.Kg1 Qg2+
|Jun-05-06|| ||AdrianP: I overlooked the "Black to play"...! White to play in the same position is winning for White with 1. Qe8 Kh7 2. Nf8+! Nxf8 (...Kh8; Kg8 are similar, White picks off the knight with check and again wins the queen on e3) 3. Qxe3.|
With Black to play Qxf2! is clearly winning, while Rxf2!? is also winning, because although White can win the queen with the same sequence as above, ...Rxf1# makes such an exercise pretty pointless.
|Jun-05-06|| ||zb2cr: I feel so brilliant on Mondays!|
|Jun-05-06|| ||dakgootje: One of the first puzzles i see around here where the solution wasnt played in the game itself, but the opponent resigned before the move was played.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||lipschutz: I looked first at 40...Rxf2 but Black needs to check to forestall 41.Qe8+ (40...Nf4 goes nowhere) so the solution had to be 40...Qxf2+.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||alphee: < yialanliu > I saw this one first too. Probably the habit or reflex to look at diagonals first. Someone I know showed me what he call "DrChess": Diagonals, Rows, Colummns, Horses, Evaluate, Secure and Strike. I have to say that using this way of thinking saved a few mistakes but not all of them.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||redribbon3700: Why doesn't chesssgames instead give us a piece of cake|
|Jun-05-06|| ||YouRang: I think it's pretty clear that 40...Qxf2+ 41. Rxf2 Ra1+ 42. Rf1 Rxf1# is the 'most correct' solution (even though 40...Rxf2 also should win). |
It's a quick mate that gives Black no chance at all to complicate matters with counterattack.
|Jun-05-06|| ||jmuller: Most helpful Monday puzzle I've seen.
Thx for all the helpful discussion, too. Especially "Dr.Chess"! :-)
|Jun-05-06|| ||kevin86: Not a bad finish! Aye?|
|Jun-05-06|| ||gerpm: Why do we want to look at all the alternatives when 40... Qxf2+ is the best way to go!!|
|Jun-05-06|| ||thegoodanarchist: I love queen sacrifices; even when they are easy to find they are beautiful.|
|Jun-05-06|| ||Halldor: Very nice Monday puzzle. Unusual that the diagram of the puzzle is the final position but that doesn't matter, the right solution is echoed all around the posts. |
I got this fast but then spent some time checking other lines - I think it's a better training instead of rushing to see the answer (which in this case was in many of the posts).
|Dec-17-11|| ||Penguincw: White missed the mate threat.|
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