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F Alexander Hoffmann vs Alexander Petrov
"Petrov's Immortal" (game of the day Mar-19-2017)
Warsaw m (1844), Nov-??
Italian Game: Classical Variation. Center Attack (C53)  ·  0-1


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  kluto: After 12...O-O 13.Nxd8, the mate is fairly obvious. The thing is that you have to sit at the board and think of the move 12... O-O in the first place.

Had Hoffmann played the natural 11.Be4, then who would have heard of him 170 years later? (Hint: noone.) So in a sense he made a clever move.

Jul-27-14  ASchultz: Even when you successfully hassle the Hoff, he still takes your woman.
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Probably too famous a game for a Sunday puzzle, but as much fun as ever.
Jul-27-14  ForeverYoung: An old classic. I first saw this one in the Golden Treasury of Chess. One of my very first chess books!
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  lost in space: Seems, that I am the only one sho didn’t know this game.

I saw 12...0-0 13. Nxd8 Bf2+ 14. Kh3 d6 15. e6 Nf4+ and decided that this it is - without seeing the mate.

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  morfishine: Crazy positions like this require a steady infusion of crazy moves, stuff like 12...Bf2+, 12...Qh4+ & 12...O-O

The first two, while exciting, come up short

12...O-O 13.Nxd8 Bf2+ 14.Kg4 Ne3+ 15.Kh3 d6+ 16.e6 Rxd8 17.Qh5 Bxe6+ 18.Qg4 Bxg4#

PM: Near enough


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  OhioChessFan: Seeing Bf2+ was the key to the rest of the combination.
Jul-27-14  leow: As the black rook is under attack, cast;ing is illegal is it not?
Jul-27-14  leow: Sorry, I was mistaken
Jul-27-14  trnbg: What if White had played 17.Qb3 (instead of 17.Nxe6)? With Qb3 White gains time to retreat his king to h3, and I can't see a forced win for black.
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  Once: Too well known to be a puzzle, but a fun thing to play through all the same.

As to <Phony>'s castling conundrum. Here's how you castle with your king adjacent to an enemy queen...

First you need to choose a board with narrow edges. The thinnest edges that you can find.

Then, in the course of a game, you capture the enemy queen. You place the captured queen behind your king. Not on the board, but on the imaginary equivalent of squares d0, e0, f0 (white) or d9, e9, f9 (black).

You may then castle as normally, either long or short. And there you have it ... castling whilst your king is adjacent to an enemy queen.

Admittedly, said enemy queen is no longer in play, but no-one said anything about that! ;-)

This same technique also works for pawn, rook, bishop or knight, but I haven't yet figured out a way to do it for an enemy king.

Jul-27-14  THKVL: If 17) Qb3, then black has Rf4+ and it's mate in 1.
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  agb2002: Black has the bishop pair and two pawns for a bishop and a knight.

White threatens 13.Nxd8, 13.Nxh8 and 13.Qxd5.

The position of the white king invites to play 12... 0-0 to create a mating net:

A) 13.Nxd8 Bf2+ 14.Kh3 (14.Kg4 Ne3+ 15.Kh3 Nxd1 (15... d5+ 16.e6) 16.Rxd1 Rxd8 - + [B+2P vs N]) 14... d6+ 15.e6 (if 15.Qg4 or 15.g4 then 15.. Nf4#) 15... Nf4+ 16.Kg4 Nxe6

A.1) 17.Qb3(d5) Rf4+ 18.Kh3(5) Rh4#.

A.2) 17.Nxe6 Bxe6+ 18.Kg5(h5) Rf5+ 19.Kg4 h5+ 20.Kh3 Rf3#.

B) 13.Qxd5 Rxf7

B.1) 14.Qxc5 Qg5+ 15.Kh3 d6+ and mate in three.

B.2) 14.e6 Bd6+ followed by 15... dxe6 with three extra pawns and attack.

This is all I can do today.

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  mig55: I found the 0-0 and Bf2, further it was getting too difficult counting for me!
Jul-27-14  SimonWebbsTiger: I couldn't help think of the great Reshevsky-Vaganian game the second I saw this position. The White King on g3 is so suggestive!

Reshevsky vs Vaganian, 1976

Jul-27-14  David2009: I couldn't see the win

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after 12...0-0 13.Nxd8 Bf2+ 14.Kh3 d6+ 15.g4 because White threatens a smothered mate or pick up the R on f7. So I had to move the pieces on the virtual chessboard (to set up the position)

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and all becomes clear: after 15.g4 Ne3 16.Qb3+ Kh8 17.Nf7+ Rxf7 18.Qxf7 Bxg4#.

Beautiful game which is new to me. Cue for pun on the Tales of Hoffman theme?

Jul-27-14  Caissas Clown: Stunning !! Less Giuoco Piano,more Giuoco Rumoroso. We need some Luddites to destroy all the computer programs and return to the romantic era :-).
Jul-27-14  RicoChess: David2009 --- after 15.g4 in your variation what should become translucently clear is mate in 1, not 15.Ne3? etc.
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  perfidious: Would have been very difficult indeed but for having seen this game, so long ago.
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  Penguincw: Just when I thought there would be ideas of taking the knight, getting white into a fork, etc., a queen sacrifice is all that's needed (but not your typical "Monday" puzzle, even though it's Sunday).
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  JG27Pyth: 16...Nxe6! Not really an exclam move for a good player, but it's exactly the kind of move I miss -- then play some flabby second best move -- and the opponent wriggles away.

A really fun game, probably anthologized a zillion times.

<Caissa's Clown <We need some Luddites to destroy all the computer programs and return to the romantic era :-).>>

I'm in. Who's with me?

Jul-27-14  BOSTER: White had the possibility to return <the gift Nxf2 > at least twice playing 8.Bxf7, or 11
.Bxf7 as the gentleman.
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  gofer: I got this far...

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But couldn't find a good reply to

<17 Qd5! ... >

This pin stops Ne6 moving and threatens Qxd6+ which looks pretty okay for white, (i.e. 17 ... c6? 18 Qxe6 Bxe6 19 Nxe6 leaves white two pawns up but two pieces up!). But it turns out the reply is very simple...

<17 ... Rf5+!>
<18 Kh3/Kh5 Rh4#>

In which case 17 Nxe6 Bxe6+ is forced and the main line all makes perfect sense...

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  chrisowen: I stage woke for won aim f7 allow castle across:

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  chrisowen: I waste f7 slip g5 down glib mister tease a wave cover I f2 a key left shuffle came light toe favour a d8 off snip done deal in focus jip a g5 knight f7 line guiven hope for bed e4 as I a 11.Ng5 catch on suddenly all blacks pieces bar one:

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19.Kg4 h5+ wins huffle as looms large gives:

dispatch put away h5 all up because quarter d8 back in time step to the plate again nifty ramble give a lane aid go ok line low good the games up ply solid feld give spark it stripe c8 in elevates saves eg ment dour energy rates I encircles 19...h5+ or ace in h3 the pack a foilable fetch at:

rook mission over reign on his parade bull shine on heads holds high man he efface up a horror as light where can he evade the checks are here to stay be effigy rotes e6 double trouble money bags h5 and rook f5 a need folds one more step try rush in rides and slides off etc rook focus afar from torn down 20.Kh3 Rf3#

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