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John M Bruehl vs François André Philidor
Blindfold simul 1783  ·  Bishop's Opening: General (C23)  ·  0-1
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Mar-04-05  RisingChamp: That is hilarious evidence,because even in the 1960s Spassky and Bronstein had great success with the Kings Gambit.And Nigel Short Alexei Fedorov and others regularly beat people rated higher than DeFirmian with the Kings Gambit.Of course it is true that defense wasnt very well understood,but the Kings Gambit isnt about having some defensive technique and then you win.Well <Jaymthegenius> being a genius as u are you should have been able to work out that if the books exist now someone must have written them,and whoever wrote them must have actually figured out the information first.This is exactly what Philidor did.
Mar-04-05  Jaymthegenius: But in the kings gambit the white's pawnstructure tends to be weak and often neglected, and a space advantage doesnt seem feasable, though a3 followed by b4 with Bb2 could be playable after Nf3 to avoid the queen check, but blacks hold on the center and development after this (plus intact pawn structure) are huge advantages for black.
Mar-04-05
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  InspiredByMorphy: <Jaym> You provide no move numbers as usual. You simply continue to leave opinions instead of analysis.
Mar-05-05  RisingChamp: If the Kings Gambit were as simple as you suggest,there is no way world class players like Karpov,Anand,Bronstien,Tal and Fischr could lose against this,so I have no option but to regard your view as highly oversimplistic.In general terms,it is hard to defend the logic of the kings gambit because it just gives away a pawn and weakens the kingside,but in practice backed up by 6 centuries of theory,white does just fine.
Mar-01-06
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  ckr: Nice game by an old master demonstrating a very percise execution of advancing two connected center pawns for a win. I fine ending anyone today would be proud to have played. To all those that think these old timers knew nothing <Stick to checkers>
Sep-19-06  Philid0r: that was SO AWESOME. Is it me or has the pawn lost a lot of importance to the eyes of more recent masters? i always read "no more than 2 pawn moves in the opening"... philidor's main weapon is his pawn army, and indeed he was a genius to be able to invade the board like that... Is there any great player from Steinitz to today who uses pawns like that?
Sep-19-06
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  CapablancaFan: Didn't Philidor coin the phrase "pawns are the soul of chess" or something like that?
Sep-19-06
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  refutor: i like philidor's line v. the bishop's opening 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 c6
Apr-06-07
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  gambitfan: After |1 e4 e5, 2 Bc4?!} is in my opinion a weak move which should be adequately punished...

2... Nf6?! (see W So vs Fouad El Taher, 2006) is not an adequate "punishment" since it allows 3 Nf3 and we reach by interversion of moves the classical Italian Opening...

Philidor's answer is definitely the best answer: 2... c6! (with the idea of the "liberating" move 3... d5!)

Best answer of White is 3 Qe2 and then 3... d6 followed by ... f5!

Apr-06-07
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  gambitfan: pawns are the soul of chess!
Oct-12-07  wolfmaster: So was what Philidor believed.
Nov-30-07
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  nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33.

Bruehl 10 mistakes:
4.c3 0.03 (4.Nf3 0.40)
11.h3 -0.98 (11.f3 -0.34)
13.f4 -1.32 (13.Qd1 -0.87)
14.c4 -1.10 (14.Qf2 -0.76)
15.cxd5 -1.31 (15.Qf2 -0.79)
20.Rac1 -0.87 (20.Nxf5 -0.15)
22.Qg3+ -0.80 (22.Nxc4 -0.26)
23.Qxg7+ -1.63 (23.Qf2 -0.78)
25.g3 -1.36 (25.b3 -0.36)
47.h6 #10 (47.Rd7+ 0.00)

Philidor 9 mistakes:
10...Nbd7 -0.34 (10...0-0 -0.73)
13...h5 -0.76 (13...exf3 -1.32)
15...cxd5 -0.68 (15...Nxd5 -1.31)
19...g6 -0.15 (19...Bd7 -0.84)
20...Nc4 -0.35 (20...Bd7 -0.87)
24...bxc4 -0.36 (24...dxc4 -1.75)
25...Rab8 -0.72 (25...Rac8 -1.36)
26...Ba3 -0.35 (26...h4 -0.72)
30...Bb4 -0.17 (30...Rc1+ -0.82)

Jan-08-08  Kaspy2: Philodor's book "analysis of the chess game" is available as a reprint as of 2007. It contains many annotated games just as a modern book. I am still looking for the page with the statement about pawns & soul, which is always quoted by modern writers on pawn play (Kmoch, Baburin, Marovic, Orban, Nicolayczuk etc.).
Jan-29-08  wolfmaster: Bruehl was cramped throughout the game, and Philidor won the easy ending.
Feb-06-08
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  chessamateur: <Kaspy2> I don't think those were his exact words.

In his book he made the observation that 'Les pions sont l'ame du jeu' (the pawns are the life of the game). Over time this phrase has become known as "the pawns are the soul of chess." which were not his exact words.

Feb-06-08
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  euripides: 'L'a^me' is usually translated 'the soul', not 'the life'.
Mar-25-08  Knight13: 13...exf3 14. Ngxf3 Nh5 looks strong.

15...Nxd5! instead of 15...cxd5 looks more active and better.

Sep-13-08  just a kid: <nimh>I don't think 4.c3 should be classified as a mistake.It may not be the best move,but it is a pretty okay move.
Sep-13-08  just a kid: <knight13>I agree with your 1st part of your post,but I am not sure that Nxd5 is better than cxd5.He isolates his e4 pawn.He also gives a better chance of the bishop becoming active on the a2-g8 diagonal.Plus the e4 pawn has to guarded by pieces and no pawns.
Feb-23-09  WhiteRook48: 2. Bc4 is not much of a move. Remember "Knights before bishops"
Feb-23-09  James Demery: Philidor goes by his own rules and he used to rock the house.
Sep-17-09  Wayne Proudlove: C'etait un jeu d'echecs "blindfold". Je crois qu'il y avait trois personnes qui jouent contre lui. Mais a ce temps il est possible pour quelqueun de jouer plus de vingt jeux a la fois, n'est-ce pas? Peut-etre parce qu'il est plus facile de lire les notations modernes. :)
Sep-17-09
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  vonKrolock: trois ou même quatre parties simultanées à l'aveugle provoquaient un grand bruit à ce temps là... plus tard, les specialistes ont [elevé le nombre jusqu'à plusiers dizaines.
Apr-02-11  squaresquat: The pawn structure determines the spirit of the game; it is the spirit which gives life...heh heh heh
May-31-11
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  goodenov: For all the praise and analysis this game received, Brueh could have drawn this game as late as move 47. with 47.Rd7+ Ke6 48.Rd8. If Black gets too frisky he can even lose.
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