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John William Schulten vs Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint Amant
Paris 1842  ·  Sicilian Defense: Alapin Variation. General (B22)  ·  0-1


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May-18-05   Runemaster: White had a real death wish in this game, and his dream came true. In fact, apart from "suicide" chess, I can't think of another game between two serious players where a player managed to lose so many pieces so quickly.
May-18-05   Runemaster: After move 11, material is level. Then, in the next 9 moves, White manages to give away 4 minor pieces and 2 rooks - that's a piece every 1.5 moves. All at the cost of a single minor piece to his opponent.

May-18-05   halcyonteam: A dream not realistic
May-18-05   soberknight: The immortal suicide?
May-18-05   knightspot: two wins, thirty-three losses, one draw. guy just doesn't know when it's time to look for another pasttime.
May-18-05   soberknight: Just because you lose at chess doesn't mean it's a waste of time to play. The goal is to have fun, right? I assure you, if I played against Morphy, I would not have fared any better than Schulten, but so what?
May-18-05   knightspot: I stand rebuked, Sir Soberknight - and I may add that I would cringe if anyone actually posted MY win-loss record on cg.com
May-19-05   Runemaster: <soberknight: The immortal suicide?> LOL
Nov-30-06   syracrophy: Well I feel really good about this game. Now, when everybody shames on me because of my strange sacs, I'll have the satisfaction that there's a game where there are MORE nasty sacs! Now I can feel fine about my sacs and keep doing it! :-)
Feb-14-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Honza Cervenka: White went wrong with 10.e5. He probably missed or underestimated 11...Nh5. After that his play was pure desperation that failed.
Oct-17-07
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  nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33.

Schulten 9 mistakes:
6.Bd3 -0.21 (6.Bxf4 0.14)
9.0-0 0.10 (9.d5 0.51)
10.e5 -1.04 (10.Qb3 0.24)
11.dxe5 -2.23 (11.Bxe5 -0.96)
13.Ng5+ -4.99 (13.Be3 -2.78)
16.Qh5+ -5.98 (16.Rad1 -4.65)
18.Rd7 -10.93 (18.Rde1 -6.00)
19.Nf6+ -15.73 (19.Nxg5 -9.87)
20.Rxf6 -21.42 (20.exf6 -15.66)

De Saint Amant 3 mistakes:
5...Nf6 0.14 (5...g5 -0.34)
6...Be7 0.18 (6...d5 -0.21)
8...Nc6 0.51 (8...cxd4 0.12)


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