Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
John William Schulten vs Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint Amant
Paris (1842), Paris FRA
Sicilian Defense: Alapin Variation. General (B22)  ·  0-1


explore this opening
find similar games 1 more J Schulten/Saint Amant game
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: The tournament is found above the game. For the newest chess events, this information may be a link which takes you to the tournament page which includes other games, a crosstable, discussion, etc.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
May-18-05  Runemaster: White had a real death wish in this game, and his dream came true. In fact, apart from "suicide" chess, I can't think of another game between two serious players where a player managed to lose so many pieces so quickly.
May-18-05  Runemaster: After move 11, material is level. Then, in the next 9 moves, White manages to give away 4 minor pieces and 2 rooks - that's a piece every 1.5 moves. All at the cost of a single minor piece to his opponent.

May-18-05  halcyonteam: A dream not realistic
May-18-05  soberknight: The immortal suicide?
May-18-05  knightspot: two wins, thirty-three losses, one draw. guy just doesn't know when it's time to look for another pasttime.
May-18-05  soberknight: Just because you lose at chess doesn't mean it's a waste of time to play. The goal is to have fun, right? I assure you, if I played against Morphy, I would not have fared any better than Schulten, but so what?
May-18-05  knightspot: I stand rebuked, Sir Soberknight - and I may add that I would cringe if anyone actually posted MY win-loss record on
May-19-05  Runemaster: <soberknight: The immortal suicide?> LOL
Nov-30-06  syracrophy: Well I feel really good about this game. Now, when everybody shames on me because of my strange sacs, I'll have the satisfaction that there's a game where there are MORE nasty sacs! Now I can feel fine about my sacs and keep doing it! :-)
Premium Chessgames Member
  Honza Cervenka: White went wrong with 10.e5. He probably missed or underestimated 11...Nh5. After that his play was pure desperation that failed.
Oct-17-07  nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33.

Schulten 9 mistakes:
6.Bd3 -0.21 (6.Bxf4 0.14)
9.0-0 0.10 (9.d5 0.51)
10.e5 -1.04 (10.Qb3 0.24)
11.dxe5 -2.23 (11.Bxe5 -0.96)
13.Ng5+ -4.99 (13.Be3 -2.78)
16.Qh5+ -5.98 (16.Rad1 -4.65)
18.Rd7 -10.93 (18.Rde1 -6.00)
19.Nf6+ -15.73 (19.Nxg5 -9.87)
20.Rxf6 -21.42 (20.exf6 -15.66)

De Saint Amant 3 mistakes:
5...Nf6 0.14 (5...g5 -0.34)
6...Be7 0.18 (6...d5 -0.21)
8...Nc6 0.51 (8...cxd4 0.12)

Jul-08-15  mikposeidon: Schulten in tilt
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
20 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection VIII by wwall
White manages to lose his pieces as quickly as possible.
from Games that don't fit in my other collections. by Rubenus
Chess Prehistory
by Joe Stanley
choiron's favorite games
by choiron
chess games 2
by tejuchess
e4addict's favorite games
by e4addict
The immortal suicide (soberknight)
from Stop Making Pun Of Me! (vol. I) by Memorable Quotes
45.0% - 15.0%
from Blunderchecked games I by nimh
Amusing Games
by raskerino

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2018, Chessgames Services LLC