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| Nov-02-08 |
| Fanacas: I cant believe tarrasch ridduceld f4-f5 he cared the most about his piece to be mobile and 2 have his piece's on good positions there wasent a better piece than white's horse on e6 the whole game. |
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Nov-02-08
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| maxi: "Rage against the machine". Funny guys... |
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| Nov-08-08 |
| Fanacas: This game had such a inpact on capablanca that he stopped playing h6. (atleast taht is what i have heard) |
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Nov-08-08
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| keypusher: <Fanacas> It's 3...a6 and no, he didn't stop playing it. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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| Nov-09-08 |
| Fanacas: Sorry my mistake its a bad kibitz i mean he stopped playing it against lasker and indeed a6 ofcourse :P. |
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| Jan-04-09 |
| I play the Fred: That is pretty impressive for him to win the New York tournament at age 56. I think Victor Korchnoi once won one around that age, but I don't know if Korchnoi was facing top notch competition. Korchnoi won the Biel tournament in 2001 at 70, ahead of Gelfand and Grishuk. |
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| Jan-04-09 |
| Emma: Can someone tell me why Capa plays 16..Rd7 blocking the path of the bishop to take off the knight on e6? Am'I missing something? |
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Jan-14-09
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| keypusher: <Emma: Can someone tell me why Capa plays 16..Rd7 blocking the path of the bishop to take off the knight on e6? Am'I missing something?> Well, Capablanca had played ...Bb7 earlier, so he couldn't play ...Bxe6 anyway. <Calli> posted this comment from Capablanca higher up the thread: <Capablanca after 15.Nd4
"It is a curious but true fact that I did not see this move when I played 13...Bb7, otherwise I would have played the right move 13...Bxf4." > My copy of the 1914 tournament book has quite a few comments by Capablanca about this game. I'll post some of them if I ever get around to it. |
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Jan-19-09
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| keypusher: Part I
Here are some comments from Capablanca and one from Tarrasch on this famous game. My source is Dale Brandreth's/Caissa Edition's reprint of Tarrasch's 1914 tournament book, translated with Robert Maxham, and with additional annotations from the contemporary press and later annotators. I have three of Brandreth's reprints, Nuremberg 1896 (Tarrasch), Carlsbad 1907 (Marco and Schlechter), and St. Petersburg 1914 (Tarrasch). Each one is a treasure. After 4. Bxc6
Tarrasch: "Why have you only chosen the Exchange Variation?" I asked Lasker in the noon break. "You must play sharply for the win."
"I had nothing else," retorted Lasker. "I have found nothing against your defense, which you employed against Bernstein and me." The prospects for attack and defense have changed just so radically in a few years in the formerly so greatly feared Spanish Game. <Here are the games Lasker is talking about. Lasker vs Tarrasch, 1914 O Bernstein vs Tarrasch, 1914 . Tarrasch, incidentally, was far too prone to this sort of sweeping conclusion. In his book about the 1908 match with Lasker, he wrote that the Open Defense was unsound. Now he thinks his innovation in the Open Defense means the Ruy Lopez is no good!Brandreth quotes Reti's claim in <Masters of the Chessboard> that, as a rule, Lasker only adopted the Exchange Variation when his opponent wanted to play only for a draw. Like so much in <Masters of the Chessboard>, this is as false as grandma's eyelashes. Lasker played it against Tarrasch in the next to last round at Nuremberg 1896, when Tarrasch needed a win to have a chance of catching Lasker. Lasker also played it in matches with Steinitz and Janowski, neither of whom ever played for a draw, and played it in the first game of his 1908 match with Tarrasch. The only thing that can be said with any confidence is that Lasker didn't play the Exchange Variation very often, but did employ it in some important games.> After 10. f4
Capablanca: This move I considered weak at the time and I do still. It leaves the e-pawn weak, unless it advances to e5, and makes it possible for Black to pin the knight by ...Bc5. After 11....f6 <given a question mark by Tarrasch> Capablanca: preparatory to ...b6, followed by ...c5 and ...Bb7 in conjunction with ...Ng6, which would make it extraordinarily hard for White to maintain the center pawns. After 13....Bb7
Capablanca: Played against my better judgment. The right move was of course 13....Bxf4. Dr. Lasker gives the following variation: 13....Bxf4 14. Rxf4 c5 15. Rd1 Bb7 16. Rf2 Rad8 17. Rxd8 Rxd8 18. Rd2 Rxd2 19. Nxd2 and White, he claims, has the best of it. But as Nimzowitsch pointed out immediately after the game, 16....Rad8 is not the best. If 16...Rac8!, then White will have great difficulty in drawing the game, since there is no good way to stop Black from playing ...Nc6, followed by ...Ne5, threatening ...Nc4. And should White attempt to meet this maneuver by withdrawing the knight at b3; then the Black knight can go to d4, and the White pawn at e4 will be the object of attack. Taking Dr. Lasker's variation, however, whatever advantage there might be disappears at once if Black plays 19....Nc6, threatening ...Nb4 and also ...Nd4, neither of which can be stopped. If White answers 20. Nd5, ...Nd4 for Black will at least draw. In fact, after 19....Nc6, Black threatens so many things that it is difficult to see how White can prevent the loss of one or more pawns. <Shredder observes that Capablanca gets a bit carried away here. After 13...Bxf4 14. Rxf4 c5 15. Rd1 Bb7 16. Rf2 Rad8 17. Rxd8 (17. Rfd2 is adequately met with 17....Rxd2 18. Rxd2 Nc6 19. Rd7 Rc8 and ...Ne5) 17....Rxd8 18. Rd2 Rxd2 19. Nxd2 Nc6 it's dead equal after, say, 20. Nd5 Nd4 21. Ne3. White is in no danger of losing anything. But Shredder agrees that Black has a small but real advantage after Nimzowitsch's 16....Rac8. Very surprising! After 15. Nd4
Capablanca (as quoted previously): It is a curious but true fact that I did not see this move when I played 13....Bb7, otherwise I would have played the right move 13.....Bxf4. After 15....Rad8 <again given a question mark by Tarrasch> Capablanca: The game is yet far from lost, as against the entry of the knight, Black can later on play ...c5, followed by ...d5. to be continued... |
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Jan-19-09
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| keypusher: Part II: More Capablanca
After 17....Nc8 <which Heidenfeld called the first real mistake of the game> Capablanca: I was now on the point of playing 17....c5 to be followed by ...d5, which I thought would give me a draw, but suddenly I became ambitious and thought I could play the text move, 17....Nc8, and later on sacrifice the exchange for the knight on e6, winning a pawn for it, and leaving White's e-pawn still weaker. I intended to carry out this plan either before or after playing ...g5 as circumstances demanded. Now let us analyze: 17....c5; if 18. Nd5 Bxd5 19. exd5 b5; and a careful analysis will show that Black has nothing to fear. Black's plan in this case would be to work his knight around to e5 via c8, b6 and c4 or d7. Again, 17....c5 18. Rf2 d5 19. exd5 Bxd5 20. Nxd5 (best, since if Rfd2, ...Bxe6 gives Black the advantage) 20....Rxd5 21. Rxd5 Nxd5, and there is no good reason why Black should lose. <Shredder finds a subtle improvement in Capa's second line: 17....c5 18. Rf3, and if 18....d5 then 19. Rg3 forces concessions. Since ...d5 remains unplayable for a time, White keeps the advantage.> After 21....Ba8
Capablanca: Once more changing my plan and this time without any good reason. Had I now played 21....Rxe6 22. fxe6+ Rxe6 as I had intended to do when I went back with the knight to c8, I doubt very much if White would have been able to win the game. At least it would have been extremely difficult. After 26....Rae7
Capablanca: This, of course, has no object now. Black, with a bad game, flounders around for a move. It would have been better to play ...Ra3 to keep the open file, and at the same time threaten to come out with the knight at b6 and c4. After 28....g6
Capablanca: Again bad. White's last moves were weak, since the white King does noting here. He should have played his rook to g3 on the 27th move. Black should now have played 28....g5+. After missing this chance White has it all his own way, and finishes the game most accurately, and Black becomes more helpless with each move. The game needs no further comment, excepting that my play throughout was of an altogether irresolute character. When a plan is made, it must be carried out if at all possible. Regarding the play of White, I consider his 10th and 12th moves were very weak; he played well after that up to his 27th move, which was bad, as well as his 28th move. The rest of his play was good, probably perfect. |
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| May-01-09 |
| ScorpionInstinct: Capablanca sees that Lasker is breaking basics: 1.Creating a weak pawn on open file 2.weakening central square. So Capa sits and wonders: wth is going on?
What went on is something Capa was not aware of: weakeness is not a weakness if it can't be exploited. Another factor is that Capa for sure expected aggressive play from Lasker as Lasker needed a win instead Lasker exchanges queens and goes for queenless middle game!! 17..d5 and it's difficult to bring this to a victory for White. Instead Capa goes for play on a-file where there is nothing and makes it easy for Lasker to win the game.
So we have psychological element of surprise and confussion. |
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| May-01-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: I'm sure it's not quite that simple. |
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| May-01-09 |
| ScorpionInstinct: Yeah you are damn right. 15... Bc8 atually saved the game. Not Capa's 15 .. . 's move, it's positionaly lost. But he was not "stupid" enough to retreat the bishop. |
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| May-01-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: I forget the details, but on move 21, Capa felt he could just give up rook for knight and pawn, and then he would have excellent drawing chances. No winning chances, of course. |
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| May-12-09 |
| Fanacas: I believe that tarrasch once said that lasker loved games without a queen that that was his trademark, i think this is treu in his manual he also gives many opening varations without queens but then again he was a great chess player on all terms. |
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May-12-09
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| blacksburg: <Overall record: Emanuel Lasker beat Siegbert Tarrasch 18 to 5, with 8 draws.> Tarrasch said a lot of things. |
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| May-12-09 |
| Fanacas: Tarrasch later never said again that lasker was a bad chess player^^. And even in lasker notes about chess games you can see some respect to Tarrasch more then 2 the hypermodern masters, even though tarrasch and lasker hatet each other. But they both left a big mark on chess history. And if tarrasch didnt share all his findings about chess with the world he probaly would have been a stronger chess player just like steinitz. So a little respect plz. |
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| Jul-30-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Lasker played the Alekhine variation! |
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Aug-05-09
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| LIFE Master AJ: This page moved quite some time ago, my apologies to all those who clicked on the old link and got the 404. The new URL is:
http://www.lifemasteraj.com/old_af-.... |
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Sep-12-09
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| technical draw: Double rooks on the h-file. Thematic in the RLE. |
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Sep-12-09
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| maxi: Thank you for the annotation postings, <AnalyzeThis>. |
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| Dec-21-09 |
| mack: So... how many of you British kibitzers played your part in securing Rage Against the Machine Christmas no.1? |
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Jan-13-10
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| RandomVisitor: After 10...Re8
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Znosko-Borovsky, in The Middle Game in Chess, p. 105, claims that in the above position White has the advantage in space.
"with two centre-pawns in the fourth rank and two well-developed knights. Black's forces occupy the first three ranks, with little hope of enlarging their scope." Znosko-Borovsky claims that 11.Nb3 is best for white.
"The explanation is that, with an advantage in space, it is less important to threaten the enemy than to prevent him from extricating himself from his cramped position and to deny him the possibility of making any threats himself." Znosko-Borovsky analyzes the sequence 11.Nb3 f6 12.f5 b6 13.Bf4 Bb7 14.BxB pxB 15.Nd4 etc. and shows how white can gradually build positional pressure. However, a computer program evaluates the diagrammed position as follows: Analysis by Rybka 3: (25-ply)
1. [-0.37] 11.Kf2 f6 12.Nf3 Ng6 13.g3 b5 14.Re1 Bb7 15.a3 Rad8 16.Bd2 c5 17.Rad1 Rd7 18.Nd5 Ne7 19.Nc3 Nc6 2. [-0.42] 11.Rd1 Ng6 12.f5 Ne5 13.Bf4 f6 14.h3 g6 15.fxg6 hxg6 16.Rf1 Be6 17.Nf3 Bc5+ 18.Kh2 Bc4 19.Rfe1 Nxf3+ 20.gxf3 Bf2 21.Red1 Re7 3. [-0.43] 11.Nf3 Bc5+ 12.Kh1 f6 13.Bd2 b5 14.Rfe1 Bb7 15.a4 Rad8 16.e5 fxe5 17.fxe5 Bb6 18.Bg5 h6 19.Bxe7 Rxe7 20.h3 b4 21.Ne4 Bc8 22.a5 Ba7 4. [-0.45] 11.Nb3 b6 12.Bd2 f6 13.Rfe1 Bb7 14.Rad1 Rad8 15.Bc1 Ng6 16.g3 Bb4 17.Rxd8 Rxd8 18.Bd2 a5 5. [-0.46] 11.e5 Bb4 12.Ne4 Ba5 13.c4 Nf5 14.Nf3 Nd6 15.Ned2 Bb6+ 16.Kh1 Nf5 17.Ne4 Ne7 18.Re1 Bf5 19.b4 h6 20.c5 Ba7 21.a3 Nd5 22.Ng3 |
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Jan-14-10
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| RandomVisitor: After 13....Bxf4 14. Rxf4 c5 15. Rd1 Bb7 16. Rf2?! there is:  click for larger view Rybka 3: <23-ply>
<1. [-0.71] 16...Nc6> 17.Re2 a5 18.Rd7 Rac8 19.Rd1 Ne5 20.Nd2 Rcd8 21.Ree1 Rd7 22.Nf1 Rxd1 23.Rxd1 Nc4 24.Ng3 Nd6 25.b3 Kf8 26.Kf2 2. [-0.42] 16...Rac8 17.a4 a5 18.Nc1 Nc6 19.N1e2 Re5 20.Rf4 Rce8 21.Rd2 R5e7 22.b3 Ne5 23.Nb5 Ba6 24.Nbc3 Bxe2 |
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