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|Dec-20-08|| ||whiteshark: Finally of no importance at Oll. :(|
|Dec-20-08|| ||Richard Taylor: <kevin86: Lembit Oll-sounds like a petro company in Texas. I think the pun was used before-for this game.|
Nice attack by white-see black throw his queen under the bus to stall the mate.>
It's a funny pun - I actually met Oll - I had a talk with him - I think he was an IM then and he said to me he was studying Logic (computer logic I think) in NZ and played in the same tournament - he alter - sadly - committed suicide - he knew IM Sarapu (NZ Champion many times) as they were both Estonian - US National Master Dennis Monokroussos "talked" about him on Chess Base recently - he beat Topalov once and was very talented but died fairly young.
|Dec-20-08|| ||Domdaniel: Oll and Ehlvest - both world-class players - were rivals for the Estonian #1 position. Given that Oll fell/jumped from a high window, today's pun might be in bad taste.|
But it isn't.
|Dec-20-08|| ||Richard Taylor: <Domdaniel> I feel that but one has to be able to laugh at things - we don't mean any harm - or I don't think anyone does - there is a funny side.|
Sadly some people with mental or pscyh difficulties - or personal problems - often lack the ability to laugh - of course I don't know what was troubling Oll (if anything) - but it is sad but true that there is a comical side to everything.
This variation as played with h6 is called "The Poison Pawn but other moves such as g6, Ng6 etc seem more successful -it looks as though those playing this know the risks and are testing White... I haven't faced this as White as I don't (lately) play e5 as White as in this game.
Also I sometimes use the Tarrasch.
But if I play 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 Bb4 I diverge there...but also if 3 ... Nf6 I play 4 Bg5 etc
But Black's h6 looks pretty dodgy.
|Dec-20-08|| ||Samagonka: Impressive tactics by Oll. Moves like the rook sac 23Rxg3 don't always work out well but in this case, they are parred with the iron determination to win.|
|Dec-20-08|| ||WhiteRook48: Ulibin: What are you doing?
Oll: I'm drilling for checks.
Uiblin: Oh. I'm drilling for material.
(MATERIAL? WHAT IS THAT????)
|Dec-20-08|| ||Chessmensch: I wonder if that's something like Lorenzo's Oll.|
|Dec-20-08|| ||tivrfoa: why not 24 ... Kf7?|
|Dec-20-08|| ||Chessmensch: I didn't try to analyze it, but it seems that white could have gotten this over sooner. Anyone agree or any comments?|
By the way, it was Jimmy Carter who said, "we should oll use less oll."
|Dec-20-08|| ||TheChessGuy: Nice quotes by the Nittany Lion!|
|Dec-20-08|| ||Albertan: <Richard Taylor: I don't know what was troubling Oll (if anything)>|
According to what I have read about Oll's life, it was the fact that Oll's wife decided to leave him that caused Oll too much stress and worry. The loss of her in his life was too much for him to bear <:(
|Dec-20-08|| ||xrt999: one-third of all black's moves are either Kg8 or Kh8, and one-third of all white's moves are either Qg6+ or Qh6+.|
I think that is why this game is the game of the day, because they pretty much just moved their pieces back and forth for one-third of the game.
|Dec-21-08|| ||Richard Taylor: <Albertan>
Thanks. When my wife left me I came close to suicide so I can understand.
I also knew a few other (NZ) chess players - quite talented - who committed suicide.
One I think was a potential master or GM - that was Rodney Philips who was NZ Champion at the age of 15.
I don't think though that suicide is greater amongst chess players it's just that we are aware of it as we follow chess.
But coincidentally I was just on King Crusher's U-Tube site and he was talking about Bardeleben who committed suicide! (Hence, as Nabokov knew him, he became the subject of Nabokov's novel The Defence (or perhaps it was (Luhzin's Defence) - which I read years ago...
|Dec-22-08|| ||siimens: actually hard to say which one's the cause and which is the aftermath
as it was the matter of schizofrenia,
as they they that's the case with half of the people with absolute memory
|Dec-29-08|| ||YJGYJ: I read the summary of the book The Defense and it sounds interesting, anyone actually read it through?|
|Dec-29-08|| ||Ziggurat: <I read the summary of the book The Defense and it sounds interesting, anyone actually read it through?> I have. Have to say I did not find it very good, at least compared to the three or four other Nabokov books I've read.|
|Jan-12-09|| ||WhiteRook48: and why the resignation?|
|Feb-11-09|| ||ex0duz: Black is going to lose his Knight or Rook..|
|Apr-24-09|| ||m0nkee1: Black looks dead after 0-0 ... castles straight into checkmate.|
|Aug-14-10|| ||sevenseaman: cg.com are inveterate punsters!|
|Aug-18-10|| ||Cercatore: Qh4???|
|Oct-08-10|| ||kellmano: Great game. My only complaint - white did not insert 26. Qh6+, 27. Qg6+|
<Cercatore> it's the only way to stop mate and prolong the game.
|Dec-30-11|| ||Sneaky: I love this game so much.|
|Apr-23-12|| ||JohnTal: The worst punishment ever inflicted against the Winawer - or am I missing a more crushing example? From move 14, Oll inflicts constant pressure against Mikhail and even offers 2 rook sacrifices to boot. The final position is a whimsical, rickety structure permanently demolished by Oll's masterful 34th move ensuring that our POTD's material advantage > 1 rook. With more goodies for Lembit's plate, Mikhail was right to resign - my only Q, MU after tossing your Queen overboard, did you think LO would blunder and allow you back into the game?|
|Apr-24-12|| ||pawn to QB4: <The worst punishment ever inflicted against the Winawer - or am I missing a more crushing example?>|
I suppose this is a contender if only for the importance of the occasion, one commentator saying that <almost more painful for Botvinnik than the nought itself, was the fact that> your relative <found an hour and half sufficient time for thought and demolished him summarily in 32 moves>.
Tal vs Botvinnik, 1960
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