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Feb-11-05 | | Abaduba: A game between two people who weren't supposed to be any good at chess- Menchik because she was a woman and Sultan Khan because he wasn't white.
so much for "supposed to"! |
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Feb-11-05 | | Shams: <Honza> your line baffles me. Why not 43.Rxc1 (?) |
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Feb-11-05
 | | beatgiant: <Shams>
Look again, it would go 41. Kb1 Rdc8 42. Ra1 Rc1+ 43. Rxc1 dxc1(Q)+ 44. Ka1 Ra8#. |
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Feb-11-05 | | Albertan: Why 17.b3? After 17.b3 she could have played 17...Bd5 ie. 18.f3 Bc7 19.Bd3 h6 20.Kb1 Qf6 21.Bc1 Bg3 22.h5 Ne6 23.Bb2 Nf4 |
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Feb-11-05 | | Shams: <beatgiant> I was smoking crack on this one...just ignored that black doubled rooks on the c-file. sigh. |
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May-22-05 | | ughaibu: Where's PaulLovric's mother when you need her. |
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May-22-05 | | BlazingArrow56: Honza was first by over two years. :-( |
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May-22-05 | | Alekhinelover: This is Vera's only victory over Khan,according to the database.But it's a good one. |
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May-22-05 | | Saph: Yeah, she really took it to him in this game.. |
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May-22-05 | | ajile: 30.RG4 G6 31.H5 gives White some counterplay with good attacking possibilities. |
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May-22-05 | | BabsonTask: It is one of the great examples of natural justice that Becker, who suggested that any man losing to Menchik would join the "Menchik Club", became its first member. I like to imagine Vera having a glass of champagne sent to his table the evening after their game, just to say "Welcome"... |
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May-22-05
 | | keypusher: In all likelihood Becker did nothing of the kind. The origin of the Menchik club is just another chess legend. |
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May-22-05 | | kevin86: White discovers that 41 ♔c1 ♖d8 is a quick trip to the undertaker. |
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May-22-05
 | | beatgiant: <ajile>
What's the followup after 30. Rg4 g6 31. h5 Nxb5? Or even 30. Rg4 Nxb5 31. Rxg7+ Kf8? |
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Jun-06-05 | | patzer2: Black's 34...a3! is an instructive winning deflection. Note that 35. bxa3?? Ra8 would be immediately decisive for Black. Black's technique in securing an early opening plus and slowly increasing her advantage against a top tactician for a final decisive position is instructive. Black's deflection 17...b3! seems to initiate the decisive attack. Perhaps <Honza Cervenka>'s suggestion of 17. b3!? would have held the position for White. |
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Mar-17-06 | | Whitehat1963: Is this game Menchik's greatest accomplishment or Khan's worst game? |
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Apr-23-06 | | CapablancaFan: <Whitehat1963> <Is this game Menchik's greatest accomplishment or Khan's worst game?> Funny thing is, had Vera been a man, I don't think you would have made this statement. Khan has wins over Capablanca, Euwe, Colle and Tartakower just to name a few. So to score a point against him is quite notable, especially in an era where very few women played chess. Maybe Vera was just better that day. Hard concept to grasp isn't it? |
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Feb-16-11 | | James Bowman: Nice game, steadfast and methodical, never does she seem not to be doing what she intends to be doing, a woman with a plan. |
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Sep-27-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Tremendous game from WC Menchik!
LTJ |
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Dec-05-13
 | | FSR: <Whitehat1963: Is this game Menchik's greatest accomplishment or Khan's worst game?> Neither. Menchik beat even greater players, e.g. Euwe vs Menchik, 1930; Menchik vs Euwe, 1931; Reshevsky vs Menchik, 1935. Sultan Khan lost some much worse games, e.g. E Gilfer vs Sultan Khan, 1930. |
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Apr-11-21 | | BarakSaltz: 4. cxd5 looks sufficiently sound for it to seem odd that the current game is often indicated, per free online databases, to have introduced it as a novelty. Would anybody have a citation of an older game where the move was played? |
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Apr-11-21
 | | beatgiant: <BarakSaltz>
I didn't find anything with the same order of moves, but we have at least 3 earlier games reach the same position after Black's 4th move by transposition:L Weinbrenner vs A Von Rothschild, 1874 C Trimborn vs Duras, 1905 J Schulz Sr vs K Sterk, 1924 |
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Jul-24-23 | | generror: <BarakSaltz & beatgiant> Yes, sounds weird that it took so long for this straightforward variation to be played. But then, we have to remember that it took those old-timers several centuries to have the cheek NOT to accept the Queen's Gambit: McDonnell vs La Bourdonnais, 1834 Of course, people may (and probably) have played all this before without it being recorded. |
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Jul-24-23
 | | beatgiant: <generror> There are more examples if one considers transpositions later on. For example, the position after move 5 at least occurred in the famous Marshall vs Alekhine, 1924. |
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Oct-17-24 | | BarakSaltz: The following earlier game has 4. cxd5: M Wilden vs E Sapira, 1922 |
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