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| Dec-21-08 |
| thebribri8: The whole point of this game is no matter how much material you are up or down, KING SAFETY IS EVERYTHING. It is more meaningful to castle into a safe position while delivering the final blow to the errant black king. |
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| Dec-21-08 |
| ughaibu: Wow, a game with a point, and a whole point too. |
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| Dec-21-08 |
| WhiteRook48: Who cares if the King is exposed. A checkmate is a checkmate. Both are checkmates. If they are not checkmates 0-0-0 might be better, but no! I don't believe any theories about King safety. A checkmate is a checkmate. It's better to move just one piece for checkmate than two. And it's a lot more cool just to checkmate when you're barely holding onto your position. |
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| Dec-21-08 |
| thebribri8: <ughaibu> You should learn English. If you are going to put a period at the end of your kibitz, you should make the kibitz a sentence. Happy holidays! |
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| Dec-23-08 |
| jazzy: i love this game, very pretty forced mate. |
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| Dec-23-08 |
| BCNeuf1: <ughaibu> OMG kid; you just got destroyed. |
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| Dec-23-08 |
| WhiteRook48: wow and it's cool to move just one piece. Mating with a rook that never moved is a LOT better than castling |
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| Dec-23-08 |
| The Lone Banana: <ughaibu: Wow, a game with a point, and a whole point too.>
Interesting comment and a clever use of the English language. I assumed that "this was" is understood (after the first comma) making it a complete sentence. May I also assume that "whole point" means that the idea of a forced mate after many moves was completely demonstrated, and not that the game ended 1-0 as opposed to 1/2-1/2? |
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| Dec-24-08 |
| WhiteRook48: go for Kd2!! Kd2 wins the contest because it was actually played! |
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| Dec-24-08 |
| hackmate: Was this the game that he did announce the mating distance to his opponent before he made the first forcing move? |
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| Jan-07-09 |
| Waitaka: <hackmate: Was this the game that he did announce the mating distance to his opponent before he made the first forcing move?> It is not something you hear everyday: "Mate in 8". |
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| Jan-19-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Lasker missed an earlier mate. After the quiet 16. 0-0 or even 16. Kf1, cutting off g2, white can just sit back and wait to play 17. Nh2# |
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| Feb-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: I think Edward Lasker played all the mate moves and didn't bother to say "Mate in 8 moves" |
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Feb-08-09
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| furrer: In find the move i get no points for 0-0-0, why?!?!!? :( |
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| Feb-08-09 |
| Granny O Doul: I vote 18. Kd2 as more elegant (the economy of moving a single piece, and the mate coming from farther away). Even so, Chernev (I am pretty sure) in one book falsely (If we can trust Edward Lasker) gave 18. 0-0-0 as being played, with the comment that it had "more impressive eclat" ("eclat" of course being italicised with accent mark). |
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Feb-08-09
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| whiteshark: Whenever you can castle with check! Do it. (Seirawan) |
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Feb-08-09
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| whiteshark: <furrer>: you want points for a MATING move??? |
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| Mar-03-09 |
| The Lone Banana: <furrer: In find the move i get no points for 0-0-0, why?!?!!? :(> <whiteshark: <furrer>: you want points for a MATING move???> I'm reminded of National Lampoon's Motto emblazoned inside "Bored of the Rings": Ars gratia pecuniae. More reasonable would be immense pecuniary recovery for pain and suffering. I found (after 7 moves) mate in one. Yet was I snubbed. That one mate in one is more elegant than another is not too bitter a pill. If someone else's choice gets three points and mine gets two, then mayhap their thinking is 50% more elegant than mine. If I thought I had a winner and someone else wins by a neck, that's life. HOWEVER, my mate in one was accorded a score which is round and rhymes with "hero." The perfectly successful fruit of my wit was thus adjudged infinitely lower than that of another perfectly successful move. Some Fruit! Some Neck! How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable seem to me all the uses of this scoring system. Fie on it! Oh Fie! Its an unedited program that goes to seed a mate in one at zero. How sharper than a serpent's tooth to have a thankless computer. |
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| Mar-03-09 |
| swarmoflocusts: <Lasker missed an earlier mate. After the quiet 16. 0-0 or even 16. Kf1, cutting off g2, white can just sit back and wait to play 17. Nh2#> Normally, I would say that Lasker probably saw this and played the more beautiful mate, but 16.Kf1 any 17.Nh2# is in fact a very beautiful mate. Perhaps Lasker initially missed that line and just wanted to make good on his promise of "mate in 8". Perhaps he simply found his chosen mate more beautiful. Perhaps he wanted to sound as impressive as possible by announcing the longest mate he saw. On the subject of beautiful mates, there are in fact many variations I enjoy in this game. 14.f4+!! (I call it a brilliancy just because the variations arising from it are so pleasing) Kh4 (best) 15.g3 Kh3
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16.0-0 any 17.Nf2#
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16.Bf1 Bg2 17.Nf2# (perhaps my favorite)
Or, after 14.f4+ Kxf4, there are these beautiful variations: 15.g3+ Kg5 16.h4#
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15...Kf3 16.0-0#
click for larger viewThis position, I think, was the most beautiful available to Lasker (it arises after 14.f4+ Kh4 15.g3+ Kh3 16.Bf1+ Bg2 17.Nf2#) |
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| Mar-07-09 |
| WhiteRook48: so there are a lot of possible checkmates? |
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| Mar-07-09 |
| MaxxLange: In his fun little book, "Chess for Fun and Chess for Blood", he says that he did not see the shorter mate at the time of the game. |
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| Mar-08-09 |
| swarmoflocusts: <I think White should've tried 11. Nxf6+, and I wonder if there's any defense to Qxh7# due to the fact that h7 is also attacked by the Bishop.> 11.Nxf6+ gxf6 and the queen defends h7. |
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| Jun-14-09 |
| smalldreams: After 17..Kg1, black should have shouted "King Me!" just to see everybody's reaction. |
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| Aug-09-09 |
| BISHOP TAL: Thank you AdrianP for your game collection kasparov has got it dated 1911 in learn chess Garry kasparov I went to your game collection and found the game.I think I tried g thomas wich was listed in the book and I couldnt get it like that either anyway I knew I see it here and you helped me find ty, ty, I liked highlander too if your named after adrain paul. |
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| Oct-27-09 |
| Qb6: Why didn't he play 18. 0-0-0#? |
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sac: 11.Qxh7+