chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Michal Vladimirovich Krasenkow vs Anatoly Karpov
Corus Group A (2003), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 1, Jan-11
Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation. Kasparov Attack (E12)  ·  0-1
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 28 times; par: 31 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 2 more Krasenkow/Karpov games
sac: 22...Rxc7 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can learn a lot about this site (and chess in general) by reading the Chessgames Help Page. If you need help with premium features, please see the Premium Membership Help Page.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jul-04-05  OneArmedScissor: <He plays very sharp and precise chess.> This is so true. When most people here "sharp" or "very sharp", the general inclination is that it's extremely tactically complex. Of course this is true, but what I find is that the regards for "positonal play" in an extremely sharp position are often over looked. Here Karpov demonstrates his excellent tactical abilities, as well as staying true to his positonal roots. The equilibrium of his tactical and positional play is phenomenal.
Jul-04-05  OneArmedScissor: <Patzer> in your final position/play, is 36. ...Qxf3 better than 36. ...a5?

I feel that a5 is better for these reasons:
1. You save your pawn.
2. It keeps the a file close, which potentially hinders the white rook from utalizing the open file in the futre. (less open files, less potential for the rook). 3. The pawns can support any bishop manuveours along the a5-e1 and a7-g1 diagonals. 4. White's g pawn is going to fall anyways.

Jun-25-11  ROO.BOOKAROO: The final position 29...Re1 is an excellent demonstration of overloading. Wikipedia illustrates its article on overloading with this final position, and gives the reference to the Chessgames link for the game. Unfortunately the article does not give any other examples. I couldn't find an extensive collection either in Chessgames dedicated to overloading.
Oct-24-11  Novirasputin: i don't consider this move an overload per say so much as a simple pin.

To me overloading is when a piece has too many defensive tasks. here the task of the rook was just to defend f3 which it cannot do after a rook sac. Of course the move is sound and the abc's of what tactic this is theoretically and conceptually are not relevant because the point is the mvoe and the win, not what you name it, but as a study i would explain this as use of a pin and not an overload.

To me for instance a simple overload example would be Steinitz vs Zukertort, 1886 move 17 Steinitz (part of a slightly deeper combination based off of the mistake Nh6) plays Rxh6 winning a knight and the game because the pawn is overloaded in defending the f6 pawn on which Steinitz can fork the queen and king. The bishop is going to be pinned so in that case you clearly see the pawn on g7 having too many defensive tasks. Again apples and oranges in the case of a clearly good win but from a theoretical point i like the way i see it (coincidentally something i picked up from Murray Chandler's great youth book "chess tactics for kids").

Oct-05-16  wilfredo munoz: How about 29 ... Qb2? No need for overloading or pinning.
Nov-08-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: 27...Re3 was easy to find. After 29. Kh1 I would have played 29...Qb2. I think that wins just as well as the game line.
Nov-08-18  lost in space: <<al wazir>: 27...Re3 was easy to find. After 29. Kh1 I would have played 29...Qb2. I think that wins just as well as the game line.>

Same here

Nov-08-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  wtpy: I saw the game line and didn't even consider Qb2 but that appears to be answered by Rh5. I just checked Stockfish and that is the recommendation with only a slight edge to black.
Nov-08-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <wtpy: I saw the game line and didn't even consider Qb2 but that appears to be answered by Rh5.> You're right, or Stockfish is.
Nov-08-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  agb2002: Black has a knight and two pawns for a rook.

The black rook can attack the white queen and bishop from e3. Therefore, 26... Bc5+:

A) 27.Kg2 Re3 28.Qa4 Re2+ (28... Qb2+ 29.Kh1(3) Qe2 30.Bb5) 29.Kh1 (29.Kh3 Qe6+ wins the rook on d5) 29... Re1

A.1) 30.Rxe1 Qxf3#.

A.2) 30.Rdd1 Qxf3#.

A.3) 30.Kg2 Rxf1 31.Kxf1 Qxf3+ 32.Ke1 Qxd5 - + [b+n+p vs R].

B) 27.Kh1 Re3 28.Qa4 Rxf3

B.1) 29.Rxf3 Qxf3#.

B.2) 29.Rfd1 Rf1+ 30.Kg2 (30.Rxf1 Qxf1#) 30... Rf2+ 31.Kh3 (31.Kh1 Qf3+ 32.Kg1 Qg2#; 31.Kg1 Ra2+ wins). 31... Qe6+ 32.Qg4 (32.g4 Qe3#) 32... Rxh2+ 33.Kxh2 Qxg4 wins.

B.3) 29.Rg1 Rf1 wins.

C) 27.Rxc5 Rxc5 - + [B vs n+2p].

D) 27.Rf2 Bxf2+ - + [B vs n+2p].

Nov-08-18  Walter Glattke: I thought for 28.Qf5. White advantage!?
Nov-08-18  erdogankilic: Excellency in chess!!
Sharp and definite
Nov-08-18  Mayankk: I missed the Re1 tactics, although I saw the Bc5+, Re3 threat and the follow up with Re2+ if Kg2 instead of Kh1.

But I didnít know how to proceed after that till I saw the shocking Re1.

Nov-08-18  Lambda: Odd puzzle. You don't need to see the final move to recognise the immediate continuation as a promising attacking idea. It's not like you're making a sacrifice and need to see to the end to know that the sacrifice is justified.
Nov-08-18  dTal: I agree. I also didn't see Re1. I thought Qb2 won it, but as pointed out, there is a defence. I think the key move of Re1 is hard to spot, at least for me, at the beginning of the combination.
Nov-08-18  saturn2: Same for me
26...Bc5+ 27. Kg2 Re3 28. Qa4 Re2+ 29. Kh1 Qb2
I did nor consider 30 Rh5
Nov-08-18  Walter Glattke: 28.Qf5? Rxe8, 28.Bxf7+ seems to stop mate.
Nov-08-18  clement41: Fully agree with lambdaís kibitz: this makes the combination not so hard to find OTB because one would go for it anyway
Nov-08-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  malt: Had 26...Bc5+ 27.Kg2 Re3 28.Qa4 Re2+ 29.Kh1 Qb2 did not see ...Re1

Thought Whites best move was 26.Qf5

Nov-08-18  cunctatorg: That person (Anatoly Karpov) many times makes chess to look like very simple and too easy...
Nov-08-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  wtpy: Al, I went to Stockfish after I looked at Rh5 to confirmn that it was best defense.
Nov-08-18  Andrew Chapman: Instructive that 29...Qb2 doesn't work. As a guy at my old chess club used to say to me - 'look at the whole board' - which I often failed to do as I should, and still do, as in this case. Andrew
Nov-08-18  marcodpt: How white proceeds after 12... Bxd5?
Nov-08-18  John Abraham: nice finish
Nov-08-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: more Kow Bell!
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Queen's Indian
by Mating Net
Karpov !!
from Superb sacrifices by kaligula
White misses 24. Qd3! = and goes on to lose
from Defensive Combinations by xajik
Raking Queen with Bishop in impending mate
from K Players of Yesteryear by fredthebear
QID. Kasparov-Petrosian. Kasparov Attack (E12) 0-1 Overloaded R
from Briefly Mostly A-D-E by fredthebear
Round 1 (January 11)
from Wijk aan Zee 2003 by Chessdreamer
Queen's Indian Defence, Petrosian Variation
by KingG
overload
from chess strategems ix - under construction by gauer
Reti or Knot's favorite games
by Reti or Knot
Pravitel's favorite games
by Pravitel
Instructive Tactical Finishes
by Easy Point
White misses 24. Qd3! = and goes on to lose
from Defensive Combinations by patzer2
Black Magic
by OneArmedScissor
Krakarpov
from The Best Chess Games (part 2) by Dr Esenville
26...? (Thursday, November 8)
from Puzzle of the Day 2018 by Phony Benoni
Raking Queen with Bishop in impending mate
from Raking Bishops Mate Examples by ChessCoachClark


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC