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Jan-10-09
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| sleepyirv: 5.g4 is extremely interesting- forcing a weakening on Black's Kingside pawnstructure after Black pretty much shown he's going to castle into it. |
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| metsrus: now all Jan Hein Donner had to do was beat Liu Wenzhe at chinese chess (Xiangqi) and they could have called it even. |
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Jan-10-09
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| dylam: it is a worth-trying opening, for sure.
there is much hidden in this line then discovered and there is much more interesting lines there for white, even if black does not castles.
anyhow, the queen sacrifice is great! |
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| cyclon: Truly a charming miniature! |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| Samagonka: A perfect attack with a perfect mate! |
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Jan-10-09
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| Benzol: <notyetagm: 1978 was the first Chinese win over a GM.> Well not quite. It was his first win over a Western GM. Liu Wenzhe defeated Nikolai Krogius in December 1965 a year after Krogius had become a GM in a game that hasn't become well known yet. The game isn't in the DB so far but it has been uploaded. I'm waiting for <CG> to catch-up with my last lot of uploads. |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| sfm: Lovely! Any blitzplayer could have played the first 14 white moves in the hope to score a primitive quick win. What a lesson. This is not a blitz game but a real game with a star GM playing black. Hilarious! |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| WhiteRook48: what a good game! 16. Qxg6+!! |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| Silverstrike: I like the opening - and the game! - but is 6.h3 a waste of a move, as the pawn advances to h4 anyway? |
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| smitten: Ah, the spike. Maybe Black's problem started with <7..0-0>. Kside castling in this line can be quite dangerous. |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| TheTamale: In my opinion, this game just shows how weak the Pirc is, with no disrespect intended toward the brilliant handling of the white pieces. |
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| megatacos: nice game |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| Atking: Yes a funny game which shows us that it is never good to underestimate an opponent! <Ladolcevita> should be happy to see that game. <Silverstrike> 6.h3 is a chinese subttle (f4 could be a E J Diemer's option) move, waiting for ...0-0 which is (As noted by <smitten>) a lemon. The counter in the center came too late. 6...c6 is as the game Kovacevic vs Seirawan of <Mendrys>'s post a good option. |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| YoungEd: Gosh, <TheTamale>, you sure seem to dislike the Pirc. You attack it with the animosity that Freddie Blassie did pencil-necked geeks. Maybe this will cheer you up: TheTamale, please be jolly!
Though the Pirc is purely folly,
Edgar's still your favorite Colle.
the end |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| jackmandoo: Looks like the Chinese do more than study islamic brewing techniques. Looks as though they've now taking a liking to premature kingside attacks. Hmmmm, how many washings until that comes out? (probly seven or eight.) |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| Manic: <TheTamale> The only reason the pirc appears weak here is because Donner showed no respect to his opponent and castled right into it. Look up Kovacevic vs Seirawan. |
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| Jan-11-09 |
| YJGYJ: Who needs to castle? In fact who needs a queen to win? Not Liu! |
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Jan-12-09
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| kevin86: Bishop moves and discovers check and blocks the kings' escape. Then to do it TWICE! WOW!!! |
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| Jan-30-09 |
| Katu: Smitten: Black's problem started with h6... |
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| Feb-06-09 |
| TheTamale: <Young Ed>:
Black got Pirqued
Was no doubt irqued
The victor smirked
The Pirc must be shirqued
(With all due respect to Shawn Sherk) |
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Feb-06-09
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| Ladolcevita: LiuWenZhe also plays other chesses!He is one of the old generation in chinese chess history! |
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| Feb-07-09 |
| Katu: He is Korean! |
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Feb-07-09
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| Ladolcevita: Is this "Something is Korean"Joke popular in the whole world?
I thought its just the joke in Chinese Websites..... |
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| Feb-10-09 |
| Katu: No, I just got misguided by a book that I own, that book says Liu is Korean. But he's Chinese. Sorry |
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| Jul-04-09 |
| backrank: Truly stunning game.
The most difficult move in calculating the final mating combination had been 19. g6+, in my view. Donner might have estimated the queen sac to be incorrect since the 'natural continuation' 19.  xh6+ fails to  g7, where White has nothing at all. But the Chinaman had foreseen things farther and more precise. What a gorgeous tactician, some kind of Chinese Mikhael Tal :) |
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