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|Nov-01-05|| ||The17thPawn: <Spitecheck> - I think you may want to revisit the Khalifman - Ivanchuck 1994 game you mention in the database. <fatbaldguy> makes a good point and I believe white missed a saving move. Thanks for turning me on to this game it was fun to analyze. Bye the way, Great handle!|
|Nov-01-05|| ||MaxxLange: <jahhaj> Well, potatoes and leeks it is, then. Cold. Sounds tasty! I thought they were criticizing Karpov's play with the "fish" reference, but I guess not. Maybe in some language they call weak chess players "leeks"?|
I also find it hard to understand why Karpov played ...dxc4, if (as it seems) he was so unfamiliar with e4 lines in the QGA.
|Nov-01-05|| ||kevin86: I wonder if Vichyssoise tastes better with Idaho potatoes.lol|
A good game,white first gotcontrol of h7,then the h-file,then the seventh rank---chess surgery of the highest type.
|Nov-01-05|| ||alexandrovm: Anand played very well using the bishop sac on h7, nice game!|
|Nov-01-05|| ||Al Notation: Typical QGA-like game...hard for Black to get his queenside marching. I am disowning the QGA. Looking at the Chigorin Defense. Any ideas, guys?|
|Nov-02-05|| ||alexandrovm: <Looking at the Chigorin Defense. Any ideas, guys?> I'm not really into it, but I'll try to look it up when I have some time...|
|Nov-02-05|| ||bishopawn: <Al Notation>, try looking into the Slav family.|
|Nov-02-05|| ||amuralid: Karpov was an extremely disciplined player who rarely faced time trouble. I think he was so far ahead of the rest of the world that he 'slacked' (relative to his immense talent)and was usually a little over confident. Kasparov helped him reach great hieghts by challenging him. I wish Fischer had also pushed him in the 70's.|
|Mar-23-06|| ||Therry Dewallef: Black may have lost on time, but seemed at a loss anyway. White has a safer king, and three passed connected pawns. Black's pieces are scattered, his king is exposed, and there is not much he can do about it.|
|Mar-24-06|| ||plang: "36...Kc8 37. Bxf6 Qxf6 38. Rg8+ Nd8 (38...Kc7 39. Rxa8) 39. Rxd5. Karpov was probably better off losing on time. "|
Well, obviously if he loses on time he is 100% certain to lose the game. If he plays ...38 Kc7 Anand still has to make some good moves.
|Jan-17-07|| ||sitzkrieg: I nor fritz6light see a win or even an advantage for white after 23..f6. Anyone?|
|Feb-09-07|| ||crwynn: The key variation is 23...f6 24.Rh3 fe 25.de Qc4 (25...Rxf4 26.e6 wins) 26.Re1 Qxf4 27.Qh7+ Kf7 28.ed Nc6 29.Rf3 and Black will get two pieces & a rook for the queen, but White still has an initiative.|
It's because of the complicated lines after 23...f6 or 23...Bc8 that this is such a great attacking game. 23...Bxe5 was a weak defense mainly because White's e5 pawn becomes dangerous, threatening e6 or exf6, so after that it's a fairly routine crush; nevertheless there was a certain panache in the way he left his rook hanging on f1 for 8 moves.
|Apr-12-07|| ||object16: Analysis of this game in ChessCafe column The Instructor, Mark Dvoretsky, "To Take a Pawn or Attack", Sept. 2006.
|Apr-19-07|| ||PEANUTS: In the variation 23.. f6 24. Rh3 fxe5 25. dxe5 Qc4 26. Re1, Black plays Qb4 to draw (Gurevich). The line 26. Qh7+ Kf7 27. e6+ Kf6 28. Bg5+ Kxe6 29. Re1+ Kd7 30. Qxg7+ Kc6 31. Rc3 is a better winning try, though I might prefer the pawn advantage after 21. Rxd5 --- with Karpov in time trouble, 21. Bxh7+ looks good.|
|Apr-19-07|| ||bvwp: Karpov played quickly when young and, as often happens, got slower as he grew older. The thinkers seem to slow down. Mine were never anything to shout about, but they're awful slow now.|
|Aug-18-08|| ||Woody Wood Pusher: what is more unbelievable, that Karpov spent so long on the first few moves, or that he played QGA???|
|May-25-10|| ||sicilianhugefun: this game was annotated very heavily by Dvoretsky in his Analytical Manual.|
|May-25-10|| ||whiteshark: <Karpov lost on time playing 36...Kc8. Obviously I was delighted to have won
after a loss*, but I was especially happy with the way in which I won.> |
* the previous day, Anand had lost to Kramnik without so much as a struggle --> Kramnik vs Anand, 1996
|Mar-24-11|| ||Lennonfan: Found it!? I didnt realise this was a blitz game??
I love this game,however i find the opening for white strange as it leaves his queenside really exposed...the first 10 or so moves are really strange for a non GM like myself,and i do realise this is some kinda queens gambit accepted,and im familiar with that opening,really familiar,but id never try this as white...never! however anand plays masterfully and the combo leading up to and following 21.Bxh7+ is awesome in my humble....well played anand...maybe karpov in his younger days would have dealt with this,who knows
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|Nov-22-11|| ||bronkenstein: “The previous day, I had lost to Kramnik without so much as a struggle, and had spent the evening being disgusted with my play. There was no way I could be bothered playing some boring Caro-Kann and trying to deal with some improvement on move 45 leading to a difficult ending, etc. I felt I’d rather go down in style than do something like that. Now, how does a move like 1 Nf3 allow me to get interesting positions?? Well, to be honest, 1 Nf3 can lead to positions even more boring than after 1 e4 c6; but at least they would be NEW boring positions!!”|
|Feb-04-13|| ||vinidivici: <Black/Karpov lost on time>|
Yes, black lost on time, but the black position COMPLETELY hopeless. So theres no reason for time trouble.
Very important to note that after 23.Rb3 the position is completely super-complex. It is almost-impossible even for a super-GM to calculate all the variations rightly.
Actually (following the computer analysis) the only defense that lead to a draw is 23...f6!!.
Other defenses lose.
23...Bc8 loses to 24.Rg3 Qe7 25.Bh6 Bxe5 26.dxe5 g6 27.e6! (now all attempts to eat the pawn lose quickly) Qf6
28.Bxf8....now the table turns, white would get the excellence in terms of material and position....big chance to 1-0
23...Bd3 24.Rxd3 Ra3 25.Rxa3 Bxa3 26.Qf3....now, white is up 1 pawn and the white knight at the center promising the good continuation...most likely 1-0
23...Bxe5 (Karpov's choice at the game) just what we have seen also loses...actually this defense is the worst than the 2 defenses above.
23...g6 24.Nxg6...no doubt leads to 1-0
So, whats left is 23...f6 leads to a draw with the right defense, but for this kind of position it is far easier to be aggressive than to be a passive side let alone Karpov had just 30 minutes left in the actual game.
So Anand knew this and harnessed the sharp combinations wisely, he got the result.
Knowing that 23...f6 would bring the draw with right defense, so 21.Bxh7+ is not the best move, i think the best move is 21.Rxd5, white would up a pawn at the mid-game and good attacking position.
For the lines of 23...f6 I need longer post to put it....later,,,,maybe
|Mar-24-13|| ||kbob: I seem to recall that Anand spent a great deal of time on the sacrifice 21 Bxh7+. My theory has always been that any of us would see this immediately if the white rook were on the b1 square. My reasoning is that the standard cliche is to sac on h7 followed by a queen check and rook LIFT to the third rank. Here the identical idea involves a rook DROP, and so the pattern is not automatic.|
But I must be insulting these great players. They were surely both analyzing to the highest level. A valiant provocation by Karpov courageously accepted by Anand.
|Mar-25-13|| ||vinidivici: <kbob>
<21.Bxh7...My theory has always been that any of us would see this immediately if the white rook were on the b1 square.>
I have a proverb:
"Theories are good slaves but terrible masters."
<A VALIANT PROVOCATION by Karpov courageously accepted by Anand.>
Which one the valiant provocation?
By the end, its much easier to write than to do it.
But if you interested of this game, you can read "Analytical Manual" 2008 edition, Chapter 42: Snatch a Pawn or Attack".
So from the title we know that the main deep discussion are: Snatch a Pawn (21.Rxd5) or Attack (21.Bxh7+).
And actually, the stronger move is 21.Rxd5!
But Bxh7+ promising the hell of complex positions.
|Dec-11-14|| ||drdos7: The move 23...f6 that everybody seems to think draws here actually loses to the following continuation:|
23...f6 24.Rh3 fxe5 25.dxe5 Qc4 26.Qh7+ Kf7 27.e6+ Kf6 28.Rh6+! (the move that was left out of all of the other's analysis.
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