Sep-30-04
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| Knight13: If 48. Kxg6?? then 48... h4 49. Kg5 h3 50. Kg4 h2 51. Kg3 Ph1=Q 1-0. I like this game. |
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Sep-30-04
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| tpstar: Morphy's annotations make it clear how 48. Kxg6 would also have drawn = 48 ... h4 49. Nc5 h3 50. Nd3 h2 51. Nf2 Kd7 and while White's King captures the Ph2, Black's King captures the Pa4, then eventually the Knight gets sacrificed for the a Pawn leaving lone Kings on the board. The text was easier and safer. |
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| Oct-03-04 |
| aw1988: Knight13, no one chases after a pawn when their king is outside of the square. It looks like the knight comes back in time to stop that pawn. |
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Nov-08-05
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| refutor: is 3. ...c5 so bad? an american GM whose name escapes me (fedorowicz maybe?) recommended that if you want to play the scotch to backdoor into it with 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd 3.Nf3 because that way you avoid the petroff, philidor, etc. i don't think that black would necessarily have to play 3. ...Nc6 in that situation. i never tried this move order because of a line like this. i guess white can always get the pawn back, but it looks trickier on move 3 than it should be ;) |
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| Nov-08-06 |
| JIRKA KADLEC: 3...c5(3...Bb4;3...Bc5;3...Nc6-C44)4.Bc4(4.c3)4...Nc6(-
4...Nf6)5...Qf6?!(5...Nf6=)8.Ng5!?(8.Na3;8.Re1)9.f4?!(-
9.Na3)10.e5!?(10.Na3;10.f5)11.exd6?!(11.Be2!=)15.Nf3(1-
5.Bxf5)15...Bxd3(15...Ng4)16...Bc2?!(16...Nxe5)24.f5(2-
4.Rd4)27.Rc4?(27.Re2 )28.h3?(28.Re2)28...h6?(28...Nd3-
! )29...b5?!(29...Rd1)30...Rxd4(30...Nd1)32.Kf3(32.b3-
)34...Rxe3(34...Rd8)36.fxg6?!(36.Kf4)39...h5?!(39...Nc-
5!)41...Nc7(41...Nc5)44...Nd5(44...Kd7). |
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Sep-22-07
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| nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.25. De La Bourdonnais 7 mistakes:
8.Ng5 0.35 (8.Na3 0.86)
10.e5 -0.61 (10.Na3 0.04)
12.Na3 -1.08 (12.Nd2 -0.70)
13.Bd3 -1.31 (13.h3 -1.04)
27.Rc4 -0.88 (27.h3 -0.12)
28.h3 -1.85 (28.Re2 -0.76)
36.fxg6 -0.46 (36.Nc2 -0.13)
McDonnell 4 mistakes:
16...Bc2 -0.33 (16...Nxe5 -1.19)
28...h6 -0.79 (28...Nd3 -1.85)
35...g6 -0.13 (35...Nh7 -0.48)
39...h5 -0.14 (39...Nc5 -0.70)
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Oct-11-07
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| nimh: Correction, new threshold 0.33.
De La Bourdonnais 5 mistakes:
8.Ng5 0.35 (8.Na3 0.86)
10.e5 -0.61 (10.Na3 0.04)
12.Na3 -1.08 (12.Nd2 -0.70)
27.Rc4 -0.88 (27.h3 -0.12)
28.h3 -1.85 (28.Re2 -0.76)
McDonnell 4 mistakes:
16...Bc2 -0.33 (16...Nxe5 -1.19)
28...h6 -0.79 (28...Nd3 -1.85)
35...g6 -0.13 (35...Nh7 -0.48)
39...h5 -0.14 (39...Nc5 -0.70)
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| Jan-03-08 |
| tcooke: Referring to tpstar's comment above: Cary Utterberg's annotations on this game from his book also indicate (wrongly) that 48.Kxg6 h4 loses for White, stating that "the knight cannot hold against the king and pawn on the kingside." This is somewhat surprising, as Utterberg knew about Morphy's annotations, and could have consulted an end-game database (which confirms the draw). Also, I agree with some of the computer analysis above... the position after 39...h5?! appears theoretically drawn, and 39... Nc5 appears to give more winning chances. I'm interested whether anyone can find an actual win for Black here. I've been able to win against Fritz from this position by luring the White king away from the centre with my knight, then saccing it for the opportunity to take the g4 pawn and pushing my connected passed pawns. However, if White plays sensibly, and defends the g4 pawn with his king, the game still seems drawn. |
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| Jan-03-08 |
| bigpawn: I'm currently working on a "Histrical Players, Places and Games" category on my blog at http://onlinechessstore.com/
Theres going to be stories and bios about the old timers and places and whatnot. You guys are for the most part intelligent, so come on a post something if you want. |
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Aug-16-08
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| Boomie: Morphy's annotations were published in his chess column in The New York Ledger from August 6, 1859 until August 4, 1860. The text of his first column including a marvelous statement of purpose, a best move puzzle and this game can be found at http://www.chesscafe.com/text/skitt.... |
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Sep-21-08
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| just a kid: Amazing how many missed winning chances there are in this game. |
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Nov-18-08
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| desiobu: Morphy says in the annotations that 46. Nxe7 was also drawing for white, but how? If the white king tries to race across, black's h pawn promotes. If it takes the h pawn the black king wins the race. |
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| Feb-22-09 |
| thebribri8: in the annotations, who is "we"? |
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Feb-22-09
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| An Englishman: Good Morning: <thebribri8>, "we" in this context is sometimes called the "Royal We." Morphy uses the Royal We instead of simply writing "I." Supposedly, English monarchs have been saying things like "We are not amused" for centuries. |
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| Feb-22-09 |
| thebribri8: That's sort of pretentious on Morphy's part, isn't it? |
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| Feb-22-09 |
| MaxxLange: It's also called the "editorial 'We'", and Morphy was writing this for a newspaper. It may have just been the expected style; prose from the 19th Century often sounds stilted to our ears. |
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| Feb-24-09 |
| thebribri8: <desiobu> That's not true. The king can take the pawn and make it to the a-file in time. |
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| Jul-12-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 46 Nxe7 Kxe7 47 Kxh5. king can defend at a1 |
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