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|Jan-26-14|| ||morfishine: Kavalek's "Immortal"
But the victim, Gufeld, has his "Immortal" too: Bagirov vs Gufeld, 1973
|Jan-26-14|| ||offramp: <morfishine: Kavalek's "Immortal"
But the victim, Gufeld, has his "Immortal" too: Bagirov vs Gufeld, 1973...>|
The difference is that Gufeld <NEVER> stops talking about his game.
|Jan-26-14|| ||morfishine: <offramp> Very funny, accept I sincerely hope he is not taking about his game: He passed away in 2002|
|Feb-12-14|| ||mcgee: For those of you who love chess coincidences, here's Korchnoi also in an Olympiad, also winning with Black on move 32, also with all of his eight pawns on the board, also pieces down.. |
J Diez del Corral vs Korchnoi, 1978
..and then going on to Kavalek in the final round of the same Olympiad to win gold on board one
Korchnoi vs Kavalek, 1978
|Feb-13-14|| ||FSR: <morfishine> Gufeld doesn't brag about this game anymore, what with being dead and all. But my understanding is that yes, he did love talking and writing about it. He called it "La Gioconda" - Italian for "Mona Lisa." That is appropriate, since I've read that da Vinci constantly plugged that painting and told everyone that it was the greatest painting ever.|
|Feb-13-14|| ||morfishine: <FSR> So, the vanity started with Da Vinci! |
I'm sure you know Gufeld's "Immortal" is one of the games in the book "The World's Greatest Chess Games" by Burgess, Nunn and Emms. In the notes it mentions Gufeld's quote on this game: "Every artist dreams of creating his own Mona Lisa, and every chess player of playing his own Immortal Game. No game has given me as much satisfaction as this one. To this day I feel happiness when remembering it. In such moments all my failures at the chessboard are forgotten, leaving only the joy of a dream come true"
Chess is one endeavor that I have no problem whatsoever with someone being proud of one's own great effort. To me, this is justified due to all the inevitable and painful losses incurred along the way. Its funny how one great game can make it all seem worthwhile. I think thats what Gufeld was trying to say
|Feb-13-14|| ||FSR: <morfishine> I'm very fond of this game myself: K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992|
|Mar-09-14|| ||annienitz: amazing game!!!when i looked at the final position, black wins here without losing a single pawn!..|
|Apr-06-14|| ||offramp: It is so fantastic that the ACTUAL genius Kavalek beat the parvenu Gufeld brilliantly. |
My wife wants me out of the house. Men have arrived.
|May-13-14|| ||Conrad93: The more irrational a game looks, the more aesthetically pleasing it is to the eye.|
I think this game falls into that category.
|May-13-14|| ||Conrad93: < 23...Rxd2 is very plausible move. Very imaginative thought by Kavalek but nothin near marvel or what, it just a very good move. White down a knight, right, but f2 pawn is defended by rook and bishop. And the f2 pawn is now same as strong as a rook soon would be defended by e-pawn, after 23.Ke2, the white knight is a threat bcoz it could move to c4. But only from now, Kavalek considered his pawn as a rook that had to be protected by bishop. 23...Rxd2 and now black f2 pawn strong as hell, b6 bishop could be preserved relentlessly. Say, if white 25.c4 (instead Bf8) then 25...Bd4
26...Rg4, again Kavalek foresaw the 27.Bc5, and again, to protect the bishop.|
So maybe 27...Rxc5 looks very miraculous for some of readers. But again we got the benefits of whatever our predecessors have done/said. They say the connected passed pawns at 6th pawn same strong as rook and we got a pawn chain even better it touches the 7th rank (stronger than rook). After 27...Rxc5 28.bxc5 Bxc5, square e3 defended by bishop and soon the black pawn would go there and thats why white done 31.Rd4 to prevent white dominated the e3 pawn.
But its too late, after 32...Kf4, e3 square dominated by black, and remember connected passed pawns at the 6th rank same as strong as a rook. Beside that white has 3 more pawns compared black 5 pawns. It loss for white.
Of course a GM like Kavalek foresaw those possibilities when 23...Rxd2. But it could be explained by logics and that shows he knows the theory and applied it in the game. He considered f2 pawn as his weapon same as a rook; he didnt mind sacrificed another rook for a bishop (27...Rxc5) because he considered his 7th rank pawn as a rook; he knew to protect his "rook", he had to protect the bishop; and finally at the end of the game, he had more pawns than his opponent, moreover his opponents rook weaker than his "rook" because it touched the 7th rank.
So it really how the way you see your pieces, one of my ex-teachers (2400+ FIDE) always emphasized that kind of thought. So when theres a theory, theres a reason behind that, better we believe those and apply it in the game. Some players failed to be a GM (i know some users though), they just achieved "a weak master" or they changed the profession because they very stubborn to learn it and even they devoured the theories but they underestimated most of them>
It's easy to sit at your seat home, drink a cup of coffee and go over multiple lines over the day as you bask in the sun. Unfortunately that's not the case for grandmasters. To take such a huge risk by sacrificing both rook is terrifying. You sweat profusely, you are constantly distracted by the violent beating of your heart, and then you sit there and go over line over line with maybe 30-40 minutes on the clock. And right just before you make your move you have to ABSOLUTELY certain that everything works as you planned.
This kind of experience is something the at-home analyzer does not have to worry about.
|Aug-04-14|| ||perfidious: <conrag: It's easy to sit at your seat home, drink a cup of coffee and go over multiple lines over the day as you bask in the sun. Unfortunately that's not the case for grandmasters....>|
Nor is it the way things are for any OTB players--we all put our pants on, one leg at a time.
|May-19-17|| ||whiteshark: Mind over matter|
|Aug-09-17|| ||An Englishman: Good Morning: Always fun to have another look at this game.|
|Mar-27-18|| ||andrewjsacks: Dynamic play by Kavalek and fascinating game.|
|Mar-27-18|| ||morfishine: "Kavalek's Immortal"
Gufeld must've appreciated it
|Mar-27-18|| ||offramp: Played at Marienbad, where the movie <Last Year At Marienbad> wasn't filmed.|
|Mar-27-18|| ||Ironmanth: Holy moly, what a great game! Thanks for this one.|
|Mar-27-18|| ||catlover: What a beautiful GOTD!
<offramp: Played at Marienbad> Wasn't it played at Marianske Lazne? I don't think they ever filmed a movie there, either.
|Mar-27-18|| ||sfm: One of my top-ten all-time favorites.
It is also the only game I know where a player after 35 moves have all pawn and no pieces left.
BTW, Chessgames has added moves. Earlier the last move in the game was 32.-,Kf4. Hard to believe the moves after that were actually played. In this video it says they did not.
|Mar-27-18|| ||cormier: |
click for larger view
Analysis by Houdini 4
8.Bxe3 Bxe3 9.Ne6 dxe6 10.dxc6 Qxd1+ 11.Kxd1 Ke7 12.fxe3 Nf6 13.Nd2 Rb8 14.Kc2 Rd8 15.h3 bxc6 16.Bxc6 Nd5 17.Rae1 Ba6 18.b3 Rb6 19.Bxd5 exd5 20.e4 d4 21.Nf3 dxc3 22.Re3 Rg6 23.Rg1 Rc6 24.Rge1 Kf6 25.Rxc3 Bd3+ 26.Kb2 Rdd6 27.Re3 Rxc3 28.Kxc3
= (-0.18) Depth: 24
|Mar-27-18|| ||offramp: <catlover: What a beautiful GOTD!
<offramp: Played at Marienbad> Wasn't it played at Marianske Lazne? I don't think they ever filmed a movie there, either.>|
I now realise that quite a lot of movies weren't filmed at Marienbad. But the most famous one not filmed there was definitely Last Year In Marienbad.
|Aug-11-19|| ||plang: 6 Ng5 is a rarely played sideline; 6 Bxc6 has been the most popular choice. 6..Bb6 was a new move; 6..exd and 6..Be7 had been played previously. White's last chance to avoid the complications was 11 Bxe3..Bxe3 12 g3..Qh6 13 fxe..Ne7 14 0-0. 23..e4 would also have been strong with one pretty line being 24 Rad1..Rd3! 25 Nc4..Rg1 26 Rc1..f4 27 Nxb6..f3+ 28 Kxf2..Rg2+ 29 Ke1..Re2#.|
Been aware of this game for years but only now did I finally get around to looking at it - definitely worth the wait!.
|Oct-04-19|| ||trolley.813: <catlover: Wasn't it played at Marianske Lazne?> Yes, Marienbad and Mariánské Lázně are the same city - the former name is Czech while the latter one is German.|
|Oct-04-19|| ||perfidious: In the same way that Karlsbad and Ostrau are, respectively, known as Karlovy Vary and Ostrava, their names in their native language, as our esteemed contributor <Honza Cervenka> will confirm.|
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