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Svetozar Gligoric vs Pavle Bidev
"The Two Knight Show" (game of the day Nov-10-05)
Belgrade 1946  ·  Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Flohr System (C92)  ·  1-0


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Nov-10-05   EmperorAtahualpa: Haha, great pun for today's game! The game itself is also very nice! I guess Black's main error was an over-developed queenside. I nominate for best move of the game: 19.d5!
Nov-10-05
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  JohnBoy: This is a tremendous game - illustrates the potential energy in the white pieces bunched up around the queen at d1.

<Mateo> - I don't think that 14.Rxe7 is possible in your parenthetical line. Plus, you've ignored that the black c5 knight can go to e6. While maybe white has a way to win immediately, you've not shown it.

Nov-10-05   Autoreparaturwerkbau: <Honza>, you link doesn't get me anywhere. On page http://www.1001knights.com/Campfire... I don't even see the possibility of finding the game.
Nov-10-05
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  dakgootje: very nice game but dont like that black resigned and certainly not at this point...If i was black here i would have resigned at move 24. Qh5 or would give white the chance (dont know whether you can speak of honour...) to mate me at move 28...but resigning here...No thats not very nice...if your opponent had such devasting attack at least give him in such position the chance to end it by mate...
Nov-10-05   jaaron11: Games like this are why I love chess.
Nov-10-05
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  Mateo: <JohnBoy> <I don't think that 14.Rxe7 is possible in your parenthetical line.> I suppose you mean the variation 13. d4 ed 14. cd Na4 15. Re7. Could you show me why 15. Re7 is not possible?

<JohnBoy> <you've ignored that the black c5 knight can go to e6.> What do you mean? I did not ignored it. I showed the variation 13. d4 ed 14. cd Ne6 15. Bb3 Q moves 16. d5.

Nov-10-05   Averageguy: <ruylopez900>This would be a good game for your collection.
Nov-10-05
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  MyCatPlaysChess: Could someone please explain to my why black retreated the queen with 17...Qc8?
Nov-10-05
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  kevin86: Two bishop sacs are very common in king side attacks;here is a rare two knight sac.

America may have had the finances and the weaponry to battle the Soviets,but never the power and tactics in this game of chess.Gligoric is just another of its great practicians.

Nov-10-05   Averageguy: <MyCatPlaysChess>The queen retreated with 17...Qc8 because now the d4 pawn is pinned to the white queen by the Rd8. Thus the Nc5 cannot be taken now. It was a good idea, but left the queen a little out of the picture.
Nov-10-05   Autoreparaturwerkbau: <Kevin86> At the age of 50, and actively playing chess for 44 and so years, you should differ between Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. Especially in chess. For example: in 1976 USSR had 40 GMs, Yugoslavia 20 GMs and rest of the world about 30, if i remember correctly. And since i was born in one of the republics of ex-Yugoslavia, I am proud for every single of them.
Nov-10-05   PaulLovric: <Autoreparaturwerkbau> i too come from one of those ex-republics and am also proud
Nov-10-05   bishopawn: This is similar to the Keene-Miles game yesterday, with bishop influence at black's home in the g and h files. Gligoric's knights maneuver well, while Bidev's knights are out in left field. 17.-- Qc8 is a puzzle, other than trying to make a pin stick, it does nothing for the queen, which remains there for the rest of the show.
Nov-10-05
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  kevin86: <Autoreparaturwerkbau>actually,I am 49 and i do admit that I made a mistake with Mr.Gligoric;obviously,he is not Russian-but a Serb.As a Westerner,sometimes we ignorantly becloud the difference between the former Communist states in Eastern Europe----and yes,Yugoslavia was independently Communist-not part of the Soviet bloc.

I should have noticed from the IC ending in his name----sorry.

Nov-10-05   ughaibu: "As a Westerner,sometimes we ignorantly becloud the difference between the former Communist states in Eastern Europe" speak for yourself for christ's sake.
Nov-10-05   aw1988: "As an orient..."

"We tend to acknowledge the pig-headedness of the western world..."

Nov-11-05
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  JohnBoy: <Mateo> - I'm looking at the position after 12...d5 in the actual game. If we follow with 13.d4 ed4 14.cd4 Na4, white cannot play 15.Rxe7, as white's own pawn is at e4 blocking the file.

As per your pointing out that 14...Ne6 is a possibility, I stand corrected. But I believe you want to inject 14.ed5 Qxd5 in there..., as otherwise the queen does not need to move after Bb3.

Does this help?

Nov-11-05
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  kevin86: I guess I goofed again---sorry.
Nov-12-05   Averageguy: <aw1988><"As an orient..."

"We tend to acknowledge the pig-headedness of the western world...">

Just out of interest, what nationality are you?

Nov-13-05
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  Mateo: <JohnBoy> <I believe you want to inject 14.ed5 Qxd5 in there..., as otherwise the queen does not need to move after Bb3.Does this help?> That is the point. Okay, I meant : 14. d4!. If 14... ed 15. cd Nd7 (15... Na4 16. Re7! Ne7 17. Be4-b7 ; 15... Ne6 16. Bb3 Q moves 17. d5 ) 16. Re7! Ne7 17. Be4-b7 .

If 14... Nd7 15. Be4 Qd6 (only move) 16. de wins for White.

Nov-13-05   Autoreparaturwerkbau: <aw1988> '"As an orient..." "We tend to acknowledge the pig-headedness of the western world..."'

It's okay, it is human to err.

Nov-14-05
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  JohnBoy: <Mateo> - much more clear now! Thx.
Nov-15-05   aw1988: I wasn't necessarily trying to make a point out of my last post; toying with words, if you will.
Jul-11-06
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  plang: At first glance ..12 d5 doesn't look so bad. Gligorics punishment is impressive. It is not every day that you see 3 minor pieces sacrificed in the space of 4 moves.
Oct-07-07
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  notyetagm: The "Two Knight Show", indeed.


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