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Garry Kasparov vs Mark van Beurden
Belzberg Simul (2003), London ENG, Oct-20
Formation: King's Indian Attack (A07)  ·  1-0
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Oct-27-03  drukenknight: yeah okay that's a good pt. hmmm....
Oct-27-03  Benjamin Lau: Is it me or does Kasparov seem to play like Petrosian in this game? A lot of emphasis seemed to be put on eliminating his opponent's counterplay before directly attacking. I like how Kasparov's knights blockade in this game and setup deep outposts, eventually pesky enough to be worth the exchange.
Nov-01-03  fred lennox: I may be "off" but the game has an Alekhine feel to me. Maybe due to 13 h5 as a set up for a latter kingside attack. 13...Bb7?? - passive! bxc4 would of given black a powerful passed pawn. By the way, Chigorin was very fond of 2 Qe2.
Nov-01-03  dorn: <TheAussiePatzer> You're right, 31...Qd6 was a blunder. After 33...Nf8 White had a good move 34.Re8, so it's clear that 31...Qb5 was much better than the played move.
Nov-01-03
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  Eggman: <A nice instructive game by the World Champion.>

World Champion?

Dec-03-03
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  talchess2003: I think he meant ex-world champion, or 'uncrowned' world champion. We all know that Kasparov is better than Kramnik :P

I really like this variation , just on first sight. But black probably has improvements... anyways this does turn out to be almost a transposition of a KIA variation. In KIA black usually plays for d5 or b5. The themes are the same, so it is hard to categorize it.. French, or KIA?

Anyways, I think the French is a junk opening. I think I may take to this Qe2 line.. If only someone could find all the variations of it. Maybe I'll just have to innovate.

Dec-03-03
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  Sneaky: <We all know that Kasparov is better than Kramnik.> You know, I know, Kasparov knows it. Now if he could only learn how to BEAT KRAMNIK AT CHESS, then maybe others would believe us as well... :-/
Dec-03-03  Spitecheck: It's like Kramnik and perhaps his mother are the only people on the planet who haven't figured out the obvious yet.

Spitecheck

Dec-03-03  Catfriend: A good one! I think Kasparov could be the champ.. but he seems to have troubles against elite positional, machine-styled players. He didn't play good against Petrosyan, Karpov was a major rival, and now Kramnik makes him a trouble.
Dec-03-03  AdrianP: <talchess2002> 1.e4 e6 2. Qe2 was Chigorin's treatment of the French Defence... you'll find about 50 games of Chigorin's using this system on chessgames.com. No-one else seemed particularly fond of it.

I'm sure that Kasparov's use of it at a simul was a sneaky advertisement for Vol. 1 of On My Great Predecessors...! (where Gazza discusses Chigorin's system against the French).

He had used it in an earlier simul Kasparov vs Paco Albalate, 1997

Dec-03-03  AdrianP: <TalChess2003> ... continuing my previous post:

e.g.
Chigorin vs Tarrasch, 1893
Garry comments "2 Qe2 Chigorin's patent move (in Tarrasch's view "ugly") which was tested in the match with an overall score of +5 -3 =2. This variation, which is very close to King's Indian set-ups conformed with Chigorin's original style: in the complicated and obscure play he was able to confuse his formidable opponent, the outstanding pupil of the Steinitz school.".

Dec-03-03  chess 2003: No, I don't think Kasparov is actually playing like Petrosian here. You see, Kasparov actually intends to TRY and WIN this game from the outset. A keen and fundamental difference between his style and Petrosian's, the latter being one of the major--if not THEE-- major wood pusher of the elite GM crowd...
Dec-03-03
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  Eggman: Rueben Fine once called Petrosian the weakest player ever to become world champion. Not exactly a dubious distinction, however. And Petrosian became the first champion since Steinitiz to defeat his (more-or-less) top challenger in a title defense.
Dec-03-03  Catfriend: Petrosyan has one of the highest percentage results.. his games might be not seem brilliant (though it's wrong he's only a strategist - he has amazing tactic games) but they're always instructive
Dec-03-03  Catfriend: Sorry, he has "only" 62, I agree it's not amasing (ALekhin has 73, Morphy - 85!!!) but it's still impressive, considering the fact he played some of the strongest players in history a lot(Fischer, Kasparov, Botvinnik, Smyslov, Keres, Korchnoi)
Dec-03-03  ughaibu: I think Petrosian's percentage was only outstanding in olympiads. Lasker had far and away the best percentage, the Alekhine figure you quote sounds wrong to me.
Dec-03-03  Catfriend: I take the figure from the db...
BTW, Fischer has a result of 72%, and Lakser had 69.
Dec-03-03  Catfriend: The best result I managed to find was without any doubt that of Morphy - 85.9 percents!!
Dec-03-03  ughaibu: For full career figures, discounting Morphy, Lasker is top about 6 points ahead of Capablanca who is a couple ahead of Fischer.
Dec-03-03  Catfriend: I won't aruge - I just took the information from this site
Dec-03-03  Catfriend: I suppose u'r right..
Dec-03-03  Catfriend: Capablanca has 69, less than Keres, Lasker, Kasparov, without mentioning the other results we spoke about before
Dec-03-03  chess 2003: Petrosian was simply not a fighter by nature. His catalouge of games reflects this. Draw after draw after draw, the occasional loss and the odd win. I would agree that he is one of the weaker world's champions. But he is one step ahead of Kramnik! Shame on Gary for bollixing it against the uninspired lad. It's too bad too, because one suspects that Kramnik has it in him to be a lot better. I'm not so sure that Petrosian did. This game is certainly a pleasing effort by Kasparov.
Jan-08-06  notyetagm: White scores an amazing 73.9%(!) from the position resulting after 9 c4!. Check out this line in the Opening Explorer.
Jan-19-06  notyetagm: After moving to the e2-square on move 2 (2 Qe2), Gazza's queen sits there for the whole game until it ends the game with 34 Qe4+.
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