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Chris de Ronde vs Hendrik Hermanus Kamstra
"The Dutch Evergreen" (game of the day Sep-10-2017)
NED-ch prelim (1938), Amsterdam NED, Apr-??
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch Variation (E80)  ·  1-0


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Jun-22-04  Nimzoid: 38 ... Ne6 and white can resign
Jun-22-04  midknightblue: i found the game quite impressive. there maybe some missed opportunities, I didnt spend enough time to know. The sacs and complexities were wild though
Jun-23-04  blitzkrieg: i appreciate the game so much..even though there are lots of holes, the "pressure-cooker" feeling that De Ronde had felt during that time created such a marvelous and incredible game.. i love chess because of the thrill..
Jul-26-04  aw1988: Many holes, but very fun to look at!
Nov-04-04  sneaky pete: <salokin> Born Schiedam 1912, died 1996 Buenos Aires, according to Renzo Verwer in latest issue Schaakmagazine. His son Chris junior now lives in Brussel.
Nov-04-04  mack: Gulp. This is one of those lovely games which seem to tell a story, an interactive story which you can get into. I'm explaining this in the least eloquent way possible, but perhaps my favourite 'story' on the chessboard is this: Tal vs Botvinnik, 1960
Apr-07-06  DeepBlade: When I see games like this, my hate for closed games increase. I have zero understanding for closed positions.
Jun-06-06  neosystems: This is what Deep Fritz 8 thinks (10 sec/move for analysis, had to hurry, since Leno's on :P):

E80: King's Indian: S舂isch: Lines without early ...0-0} 1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 g6 3. e4 d6 4. d4 Bg7 5. f3 Nbd7 6. Be3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. Qd2 b6 9. g4 Nc5 10. Nge2 h5 11. g5 Nfd7 12. Qc2 Nb8 13. O-O-O Nba6 14. a3 Bd7 15. Kb1 O-O 16. Nc1 Qe7 17. Be2 Rfe8 18. Rdg1 Qd8 19. h3 Consolidates g4 Qc8 20. Bf1 Re7 21. Rh2 Qb7 22. Bd3 Nxd3 23. Nxd3 Nc5 24. a4 Qc8 25. Nf2 Na6 26. Qd1 Nb4 27. Nb5 Qb7 28. Bd2 Na6 29. Qe1 Nc5 30. Be3 (30. Qd1 $142 $11 and White can hope to live) 30... Nxa4 $17 31. Ng4 (31. Nd1 $142 $5 $17) 31... hxg4 $19 32. hxg4 Ree8 ( 32... c6 33. Qh4 Bxg4 34. fxg4 $11) 33. Qh4 $2 (33. Rgh1 $142 $5 $17) 33... Kf8 (33... Nc5 keeps an even firmer grip 34. Rgh1 Kf8 35. Qe1 $19) 34. Qh7 (34. f4 exf4 35. Bd4 Re5 $19 (35... Rxe4 $4 leads to mate in 3 36. Bxg7+ Kxg7 37. Qh6+ Kg8 38. Qh8#)) 34... Nc5 35. Nd4 (35. Rgh1 $19) 35... exd4 36. Qxg7+ (36. Bf2 does not solve anything Qa6 37. Rc1 a4 38. Bxd4 Bxd4 $19) 36... Kxg7 37. Bxd4+ Re5 38. f4 Nxe4 (38... Qa6 $142 and ♗lack has reached his goal 39. Rc1 Nb3 40. fxe5 Nxd4 41. e6 $19) 39. fxe5 Nxg5 (39... c5 $142 and ♗lack wins 40. dxc6 Qxc6 41. e6+ f6 42. exd7 Nxg5 $19) 40. e6+ f6 (40... Kf8 $5 and ♗lack can already relax 41. exd7 Ke7 42. d8=R Kxd8 43. Bf6+ Kc8 44. Bxg5 $19) 41. Rf1 Rf8 (41... Ne4 42. g5 Kg8 43. exd7 $19) 42. exd7 Qb8 43. Rxf6 Demolition of pawn structure Rxf6 Decoy theme: f6 44. Rf2 Ne4 (44... Nh7 $5 makes it even easier for ♗lack 45. Rxf6 Qd8 46. g5 $19) 45. Rxf6 Qd8 $4 ♗lack loses the upper hand (45... Kh6 $142
would have given ♗lack the upper hand 46. Re6 Qd8 47. Rxe4 Kg5 $19) 46. g5 $11 Nxg5 $4 ♗lack has let it slip away (46... a4 $142 $11 and ♗lack hangs on) 47. Rxd6+ $18 Kf8 $2 (47... Kf7 48. Bf6 Ne6 49. Bxd8 Nxd8 $18) 48. Bf6 cxd6 ( 48... Qxf6 what else? 49. Rxf6+ Ke7 50. Rxg6 Nf3 $18) 49. Bxd8 Nf7 50. Bf6 ( 50. Bf6 Kg8 51. b3 $18) 1-0

Dec-18-06  Rubenus: Interesting. 'Kamstra' must be a really weak player. Even the Immortal Game is more sound than this super unsound attack.
Mar-13-09  Andrijadj: Well,up to move 30,this is one of the most boring games ever...I reckon they both were in time scramble,and De Ronde outblitzed his opponent...
Mar-29-09  WhiteRook48: Kamstra is kind of dumb
Aug-10-10  Grantchamp: really lame
Apr-11-11  rich187113: well played
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  offramp: The Argentinian Immortal.
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  andrewjsacks: More holes than Swiss cheese.
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  morfishine: Incredible, this mess is a prime candidate for the most unsound AND the most boring chess game ever


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  Domdaniel: I fail to understand people who can say things like "Kamstra is kind of dumb" or "Kamstra must be a really weak player".

Have these opinion merchants ever played real competitive chess?

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  thegoodanarchist: At first I thought 45...Nxf6 Δ ...Qd8 wins for Black, but 46.g5 Qd8 47.Bxf6+ wins the queen
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  catlover: The positional maneuvering in the first part of the game is not extremely exciting but the flurry of sacrifices in the last part of the game more than makes up for it.

For those who enjoy knowing the circumstances in which the game was played and biographical information on the players (in this case, de Ronde), be sure to click on the link provided by <Calli> on page one of the kibbitzing. It's quite a story.

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  morfishine: <Domdaniel> I agree whole-heartedly with your question: <...Have these opinion merchants ever played real competitive chess?>

And the answer is a resounding 'NO'


Sep-10-17  newzild: Wow, that's quite the finish.

Impressive indeed.

Sep-10-17  newzild: Added to my new collection, "The Best Games You've Never Heard Of:

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Sep-10-17  ColeTrane: the Dutch be puffin' on that green forever, y'all feel me right?!?
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  kevin86: A great game!
Jun-04-18  Saniyat24: Heavy traffic and congestion in the middle game...!
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