Members · Prefs · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

register now - it's free!
Jon Ludvig Hammer vs Magnus Carlsen
"Can't Touch This" (game of the day Aug-03-09)
WYCC - B14 (2003)  ·  Indian Game: Wade-Tartakower Defense (A04)  ·  0-1
To move:
Last move:

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 143 times; par: 25 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 11 more J L Hammer/Carlsen games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Click on the e8 square to see a computer engine analysis of the position.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with the default chess viewer, please see the Pgn4web Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 6 OF 6 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Premium Chessgames Member
  Marmot PFL: A very simple problem. This must have been a blitz game.
Feb-14-12  Whitehat1963: More of a Monday puzzle.
Feb-14-12  psmith: I'm with <Whitehat1963>.
Feb-14-12  Crispy Seagull: I feel so proud that I saw this almost instantly. Heck, I might haver even seen it in a real game! I think they got Monday and Tuesday mixed up this week.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: It looked interesting when the two Norwegians faced, but I didn't saw the queen sac. A lot of people are saying that this was more of a Monday puzzle, and yesterday was more of Tuesday puzzle. However, to me, it's more of the opposite. It must be because of my brain or something.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: <Penguincw> I have a theory...

When we look at a chess puzzle, sometimes we see <plans> and sometimes we see <moves>.

What do I mean? I think today's POTD is most easily solved if you spot the overall plan. The white king is trapped on the h file and white doesn't have any defensive pieces which can block that file. So any unanswerable rook or queen check on the h file will be mate. So then we look for ways to check on the h file, and that's when we see that the g pawn is overworked. It "prevents" the queen from playing Qh5+ and it "prevents" the rook from Rh4+. Get rid of the g4 pawn with tempo and the game is won.

By contrast, Monday's POTD seemed to appeal more to people who look first at moves. We had a fairly obvious rook sac to examine, even if we didn't know what it would lead to.

Most of us have a natural inclination to one or other of these two types of thinking. You can see that when people write down their thoughts. Some immediately start identifying candidate moves and assessing variations. Others take a while to scan the position and look for features, strengths, weaknesses and plans.

I've noticed that my thinking patterns have changed as I've got older. When I was young I used to dive straight and look at promising moves. I followed rules like "examine every check and capture". I read GMs talking about "the move that the position demands" and I fondly imagined that I had similar levels of experience and insight.

Then I went through a dreamy phase of looking for plans in almost every position.

Now I seem to flip between the two. Sometimes I look at a position and see a move that I really want to get to know better. Other times I will let me eye wander dreamily over the hills and valleys of a position before I get down and dirty with actual moves.

If you found yesterday's POTD easier than today's, it may be that your natural thinking style is to look at specific moves first. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And in many cases it's the fastest way to find a solution.

But if you don't find a move you like quickly, you might like to switch to plan mode for a while. Look for dynamic and static features of the position - loose pieces, pins, forks, weak kings - that sort of thing.

Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < Once >

Thanks for the info. I think my brain does like to think of specific moves, although it does backfire.

Feb-14-12  srag: Easier than yesterday, right?
Feb-14-12  Crispy Seagull: What was white planning with 16. Be3? Seems easy to see now obviously, when we know the outcome, but I wonder can't help but wonder why he would leave the pawn unprotected. I'm sure at 13 he was still a better player than I'll ever be, so perhaps there was a plan.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: <once: When we look at a chess puzzle, sometimes we see <plans> and sometimes we see <moves>.> And sometimes we find ourselfs in the fortunate position that we have seen it all before. I can honestly say that this took me less than a seccond. Yesterday was not good for me. Anything more than a mate in two on a monday does that. B.t.w. good pun!
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheFocus: <once>< When we look at a chess puzzle, sometimes we see <plans> and sometimes we see <moves>.>

I once saw Jesus's face.

Feb-14-12  Archerforthelord: Crispy, the idea behind 16 Be3 is to trap the white knight frankly its not easy to see queen sacrifices when selecting candidate moves, at least for me its not.
Feb-14-12  stst: Q-sac again,
17..... Qh5+
18.gxh5 Rh4#
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: 16.Be3 was clearly to prevent Carlsen's Knight from escaping.

(Hammer followed it up with 17.Re1.)

But he underestimated 16...Rxe4.

(making Carlsen's Queen sac possible)

Jul-12-13  nopassion4jazz: Since the first move I know that carlsen using fischer's modern games rules - very good one - very instructive, and for some, this is realy persuasive :)
Jul-12-13  Mudphudder: Very pretty game. Even given the rating difference at the time.
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: J L Hammer vs Carlsen, 2003

17 ... ?

click for larger view

17 ... ♕b5-h5+! 0-1 <pins against squares: h4-sq>

click for larger view

Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: J L Hammer vs Carlsen, 2003

Game Collection: TIYDIIIS - THAT IS YOUR DEFENDER! IT INTERPOSES! 17 ... Qb5-h5+! 0-1 White g4-pawn interposes/shields h4-mate sq

Premium Chessgames Member
  Nightsurfer: This game here <Jon Ludvig Hammer vs Magnus Carlsen (2003)> demonstrates a very interesting and sophisticated version of the famous constellation of the <MATE of ANASTASIA> - whereas the games as follows D Steinwender vs R Gralla, 1972 & J Gast vs E Bhend, 1987 & T Voronova vs Vo Hong Phuong, 2000 - demonstrate the more basic version of the <MATE of ANASTASIA> ... ;-) ... anyway, our beautiful, but treacherous <Anastasia> will live forever ... in the Realm of our beloved <Queen Caissa>!
Dec-25-14  Dave12: nice... i'd say after playing 13..Ne2, king's move, BxN and Be3, there is no way to defend the N from Re8, and then continues Rxg4 Qxe2 with no compensation for material. but Magnus saw all this and found the blow 17..Qh5
Nov-16-15  gars: After 11) ...Qg5 Black pieces spring to life and simply smash White's game. Amazing!
Nov-16-15  pedro99: Once you've seen this it sticks; a bit like the Reti Tartakower sac
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: No blitz game, but rather time pressure (at move 17?) if I remember correctly. I think it's from here:

Nov-16-15  thegoodanarchist: <Arcturus: Ha ha !
"Can't touch this"
. . . . sounds like my last Valentine's Day date>


Nov-16-15  thegoodanarchist: <TheFocus: <once>< When we look at a chess puzzle, sometimes we see <plans> and sometimes we see <moves>.>

I once saw Jesus's face.>

Exile on Main St.

Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 6)
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 6 OF 6 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. Don't post personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
Carlsen's notable games
by ffpainz
attydong's favorite games
by attydong
by wandererofmars
A quick KO by Carlsen
from Fischeristhebest's favorite games by Fischeristhebest
working on 3
by wwm
by ALL
Openings for black: King's Indian
by lomez
17...? (February 14, 2012)
from Tuesday Puzzles, 2011-2015 by Phony Benoni
castillov's favorite games
by castillov
musicmanTRIBALx's favorite games
by musicmanTRIBALx
by JustAnotherPatzer
by pokerram48 you Magnus
from "Chessamphetamines": twoinchgroup's VIG's List by twoinchgroup
17...? (January 10, 2004)
from Saturday Puzzles, 2004-2010 by Phony Benoni
17...? (Tuesday, February 14)
from Puzzle of the Day 2012 by Phony Benoni
Indian 0-1 17 drag. Magnus
from xfer's favorite games 2009 by xfer
Art on the board
by 5nizza
Indian Game: Wade-Tartakower Def.,Her Majesty goes off for mate
from Less Common Nc6 Ds by fredthebear
adviser's favorite games
by adviser
Art of attack
by shakespeare
plus 96 more collections (not shown)

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | advertising | contact us
Copyright 2001-2015, Chessgames Services LLC
Web design & database development by 20/20 Technologies